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Title: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-05, 03:38:59
We need a 2nd vehicle for me to commute to work and back. In our price range a motorcycle seems the best option. This Saturday I'm looking at a 1985 Honda Magna VF700C with 40,779 miles on it. Is that too many for that bike & motor?

Here's the ad:

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(http://images.craigslist.org/01010_6RbDHQd5ENQ_600x450.jpg) (http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/4848933179.html)
$1,475.00 obo
1985 Honda Magna VF700C
700cc Engine
Miles - 40,779

Reupholstered driver and passenger seat
Repainted side covers
New battery
Aftermarket turn signals
Shaft driven
Decent amount of tread life on tires
Small dent on gas tank
Everything is in working order and runs good
Great beginner motorcycle
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Sir James A on 2015-02-05, 16:47:08
Make and model specifics aside, condition and treatment of the vehicle outweigh mileage.

I bought my current car, driven 100 miles round trip for work every day, about 2 1/2 years ago - with 99k miles on it, and it reached 149k miles today. Aside from modifications for the fun of it, I've only done oil changes, filter, spark plugs, brake pads, rotors... the simple maintenance items (and one recall). However, before I bought it, I pulled the history report on it, verified it only had 2 owners, all service was done on time (or ahead of schedule), etc.

If you know somebody who is good with motorcycles, take them with you to evaluate the condition. Only thing I can think of is that the "dent in gas tank" may be from it being either knocked over or someone fell off of it while riding ("dropped" in motorcycle speak, I think). The picture looks great for a bike that is 30 years old, but if it doesn't run well or has major mechanical problems.........

(I had an 85 or 86 Honda VFR700 about 20 years ago but never got past learner's permit, and the engine seized while in storage)
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Mike W. on 2015-02-05, 19:58:23
That old and only 44k? Seems amazing. My first car was a '95 Cavalier with 90k and the next was a '97 Concorde with 135k. I got lucky with my current car only having 44k.

It doesn't seem like it was driven all that much. Seems like grandma just took the bike to the cemetery and back on occasion. With that in mind, there could be some issues with the bike from sitting idle for long stretches or just from age.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-05, 21:00:18
Well please keep in mind that most bikes don't age like cars. BMW's are renowned for doing 100k miles. I've heard of some model's & some engines being good but this one is beyond my knowledge. I used to commute on an 86' Nighthawk 450 but parts were a bitch to find.

Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Ian on 2015-02-05, 22:21:27
I don't know anything about motorcycles other than I'd slap you in the face if you got a sport bike instead of a cruiser, so it looks like you're on the righteous path.  :)
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2015-02-06, 01:34:15
buy it!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2015-02-06, 16:27:54
I talked my friend/coworker who is a motorcycle guy, and he pretty much echoed what James said. See if you can check it out, maybe take a test-ride. Mileage is probably fine as long as it's been well maintained.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-07, 19:58:27
So I test rode the '85 700cc Honda Magna with 40k miles that the kid wanted $1400 for. Shaft Drive is interesting, and the bike has never been dropped. The V-4 was less spry than I would have thought, the bike was less nimble than I had hoped, it was the California Emissions model, the seller was a college kid that didn't seem to know much about the mechanicals & whatnot of the bike, and the front brakes will need work soon. Comfy to ride though, however the load limit was only 375lbs.

Tamalyn is above 175lbs and I'm 250 so we'd be 50lbs over limit for riding together.

NADA Guides say the bike is worth no more than $1000 in it's condition. I'm tempted to offer $800. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-07, 22:45:49
Nevermind. My wife pointed out that one of the big reasons for us to get a bike was so that she could join me on there & while I might not worry with a newer, less stressed engine, this one wasn't settling my mind.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Ian on 2015-02-08, 00:48:18
Nevermind. My wife pointed out that one of the big reasons for us to get a bike was so that she could join me on there & while I might not worry with a newer, less stressed engine, this one wasn't settling my mind.

Or just lose 50 lbs :)
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-08, 02:19:33
Oh we will but that's a project of 6 months, and it wasn't the deal killer, it was just the cherry.

The more we thought about it all the more it seemed less than a good idea. If I had dealt with the main mechanic for the bike (the Uncle of the seller) I might have been less hesitant, but I was warned to ask questions about the engine, transmission, & parts availability. His answers didn't make me confident.

But damn did it feel good to ride again.

(BTW when I get a bike I will wear my kit on it for a photo.)

Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-08, 02:34:57
 (http://images.craigslist.org/00w0w_jRQzbScU2kO_600x450.jpg) (http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/4881445003.html)

Here's what I'm looking at tomorrow, a 1994 Suzuki VZ800 Intruder. A v-twin shaft drive bike with 9879 miles on it.

Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-08, 21:27:55
Damn. The Suzuki v-twin I looked at had been dumped and the guy, a motorcycle mechanic, lied about it. He also wanted as much as it would have been worth in great shape & called it a "winter special price".
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2015-02-09, 06:06:49
It's a sign: The biker gods want you to get a Harley.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Ian on 2015-02-09, 14:41:02
It's a sign: The biker gods want you to get a Harley.

So it shall be written...
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-09, 17:12:29
This article was posted on the Archive "How To Translate Motorcycle Ad's on Revzilla (http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-translate-motorcycle-ads)" and I found it worth a few giggles. :)

BTW As american & supported as they are I don't want a Harley due to two things; Harley Guy's/Culture, and Price. I took the Riders Edge Course at my local HD dealership, it wasn't pleasant if you weren't into Harley's. It took me telling them "no, leave me alone" for 3 years before they finally did.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2015-02-12, 14:04:27
This article was posted on the Archive "How To Translate Motorcycle Ad's on Revzilla (http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-translate-motorcycle-ads)" and I found it worth a few giggles. :)

Hah, lol. I've seen similar "translations" in other topics too, and they're always good for a laugh. :)
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-16, 21:25:46
So I've been asked by my dad to wait to see if he can convince my brother, who's in Argentina and not planning to come back to the USA. He's got a Honda Shadow 600cc. However there's another Shadow & an Intruder up for sale on Reno Craigslist.

Grr... I hate waiting.
Title: Re: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-22, 22:50:42
Well it looks like my dad would be more than happy to get rid of my bro's bike by selling it to me. It's a 1991 Honda Shadow VLX 600 with 20k miles on it. He's not happy to discover said brother is wanting to store the bike in his garage for 2+ more years and doesn't really want to sell the bike. If I get it this is what I'll be buying (add windshield, seat damage, & stock signals. minus bags):

(http://motoprofi.com/bikephoto/6/honda_vt_600_c_1991_2.jpg)

Last night I took the info from above & 2 hours spent doing research on used motorcycles has made my brain feel like it's filled with sludge. And the prettiest bike I research today, a purple '91 Suzuki VX800, is the one not made for 22 years (so parts would be hard to find).

 I made a table with 7 metrics so I could track comparative values, valuations, deals, expectations, and longevity. I had an Aspie moment.
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-02-28, 06:32:22
So we went on a road trip from Reno, NV to Susanville, CA today and added in a motorcycle sale. We got a 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 750, but due to the seller not being home when we called afer the test ride to tell him we wanted it, and lots of wind & snow/slush having rolled in an hour later, we've agreed to pick it up later in the week.

So barring unforeseen issue, or the seller changing their mind, we should have 2 wheeled transport soon.

We got it for $1100. It's shaft drive and has 25,000 miles on it. The Shadow 600 is still going to be sold but we've yet to get a solid timeframe from my brother on when. So we said "screw it. bird in the hand time".

Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2015-02-28, 14:09:45
"and i even like the color" nice!
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir James A on 2015-02-28, 14:20:15
Congrats!
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Ian on 2015-03-01, 00:13:13
Congrats!   Nice bike!
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir Edward on 2015-03-02, 19:43:17

Nice, congrats!
Title: Bike Achieved (was: Is 40k a lot for a '85 Honda Magna).
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-03-05, 03:46:54
So it's here.
We got a 1994 Kawasaki Vulcan 750. 25k miles. $1100.
Saddlebags (not pictured), and windscreen inc. I can now go get groceries, apply to certain jobs, and hit the gym.
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir Edward on 2015-03-10, 13:05:13
Awesome, I even like the color. :)
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir James A on 2015-03-10, 19:07:13
Awesome, I even like the color. :)

Yes, the white and gold looks great!
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir Edward on 2015-03-11, 18:32:15
Awesome, I even like the color. :)

Yes, the white and gold looks great!

LOL :)
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-03-12, 05:35:48
Just wait till I get LED's or, if I'm really lucky, Lumilor paint.
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Sir William on 2015-03-12, 20:07:03
Thorsteinn, I wouldn't go crazy with this one- adding LEDs and jazzy paint and the like, at least, not til you've had it a while.  One thing I've noticed about new bikers- they rarely stick with the first one they buy.  That's usually to get them in the door - and then they find that one they gotta have.

My brother started riding back in 2001...he started with a Yamaha R6 and upgraded to the much faster R1 inside of six months (gave the R6 to his wife).  Then he started racing so he had three bikes; had a bad crash, took a chunk out of his knee, had surgery and got back on immediately.  They say if you can conquer that initial fear, you'll continue riding.

I never said he was bright, only that he's my brother.  lol

Anyway, it sounds like yours will be more for utilitarian reasons- he rode just for the fun of it, uses cars for getting around normal-like.
Title: Re: Bike Arranged (Was: Is 40k miles a lot for an '85 Honda Magna VF700C?).
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2015-03-12, 23:09:56
It's my second bike actually. 4th one I've ridden.

I trained on a '04 Buell Blast (yuck).
Test rode a '09 BMW F650GS  (very very nice)
1st bike bought was an '86 Honda Nighthawk 450. It was fun and taught me a lot. Heck I'd still have it if the economy hadn't tanked badly in '09.

This one I bought for getting around. We plan to keep it a good long while. The LED strip I want is like $30. Lumilor would be very cool but I don't think I could afford it mores the pity.

And yeah this will be for me to use when my wife is working out of town and has the car. I much prefer the car aside from the fact that we dropped $17k on it.

And now with all the bike makers got out it would be a hard task to chose "What would I buy if I had the cash".