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Main => The Library => Topic started by: Sir Brian on 2011-03-08, 17:54:20
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An interesting webpage I happened upon with some lesser known reference material. Although the information is not the best correlation but it is intriguing none the less! ;)
http://www.luminarium.org/medlit/medprice.htm#armor (http://www.luminarium.org/medlit/medprice.htm#armor)
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Very cool! It makes me want to get my hands on some period coin to keep with my kit.
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Sir Edward, I can make you some Edward I pennies.
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Did you see the part about “Total Armor owned by a knight” was 16 pounds, 6 schillings and 8 pence around the year 1374 and in comparison to rent a merchant’s house for an entire year was 2 – 3 pounds? ;)
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Nice find Sir Brian.
Here`s a nice site for visual references;
http://www.larsdatter.com/
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Sir Edward, I can make you some Edward I pennies.
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That would be cool!
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OK I will order me some more blanks and get to work. ;)
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Are you stamping out replicas with a die? Or casting them? Let me know what I owe you. :)
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They are Edward I long cross pennies, struck/stamped or hammered like the origionals, using a replica of the Cheshire mint obverse and reverse die set.
The first group I was with did C13th so I bought the die set for living history, and for the MOPS to have a go at striking their own coins (for a small fee of course lol). I was quite riterally making money hand over fist lol.
When I get too old for combat I am hoping to portray a moneyer, so I will eventually be getting more die sets for other periods and denominations for medieval coins.
I will see how much the blanks cost me and will let you have them at cost. I`m sure it will be much cheaper than buying off the net ;)
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aWESOME
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Oh wow maille was expensive... From what I heard it was the most sought after looted item on the battlefield.
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Sir Gerard, I'd like to get in on that if possible- and am willing to pay as well. Sir Ulrich, it is such a labor-intensive garment that yes, very sought after because it was expensive. One man, rolling out wire, clamping it shut then hammering the ends flat for riveting. At least 20,000 rings in a good hauberk. That took a long time to make...I couldn't imagine doing it myself. lol
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Let me tell you a little something about rivetted maille. I started making some today, and after about five hours and ten VERY sore fingers, I've got exactly 145 flattened, UNPUNCHED, UNWOVEN rings. I did manage to get seven 36 inch coils rolled, but only cut one of them up so I could practice my flattening technique. Needless to say getting only 145 useable rings out of the 450 I cut, my flattening skills need a little work (though they were markedly better by the end). So far, the experience has left me convinced of two things: 1. The cost of rivetted maille is completely justified, and 2. making it should be used as a punishment for convicts!
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Red...couldn't agree with you more on both counts.
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BTW, tried piercing some of the rings I made yesterday. I'm officially done trying to fabricate rivetted maille. >:(
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BTW, tried piercing some of the rings I made yesterday. I'm officially done trying to fabricate rivetted maille. >:(
That bad, eh? Yikes. Yeah I could see trying to do a little to replace a lost ring here or there, or close up a seam after cutting some material out to taper a sleeve or something. But I have no desire to make it from scratch either.
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Yeah, that bad. Rings are just too darn small (3/8 inch ID) in real life. Those closeups on all the how-to pages make it look easy. I have all those coils wound, so I'm wondering if I could salvage some of my time and make some butted chauses. I'm using 16g, pre-annealed rebar tie wire. The maille boards say it's great for rivetted, but I wonder if it'll work for butted. What'd you use on yours, Sir Edward?
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My kit is 14g butted aluminum. Aluminum is pretty weak if you don't make it thick. I used 1/4 mile spools of electric fence wire, and went through two or three of them to make the kit I think.
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Sounds like real hard work...where's an Erik Schmid when you need him? lol
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We have guys in our group that do maille but it takes a whole season to get it fitted right lol.
I have had confirmation of costs back from my monier, so Eddy I pennys will cost £4.00 for 10 coins.
I will send these out to you guys with no postage cost, as a good will gesture to comrades in arms.
Please feel free to surf the net and find cheaper, local vendors.
Let me know if you are still interested and I will order the blanks in and get to work.
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Let's see, google says £1 = $1.6069 right now, so that's about $6.43 for 10 coins? Works for me! Do you use paypal? I think it can convert for us.
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I do use paypal.
$6.43 for 10 coins.......= $6.43 for d10........lol
Please feel free to see if you can get a better rate of exchange first.
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lol, yes, 10 pence? :) Seriously, I consider $6 to be just fine for a handful of replica coins.
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I don't think I could ever make riveted maille fully. I had enough annoyance making half a shirt of butted maille back in 2005 and I eventually gave up on it cause I couldn't get the arms right. Plus using bolt cutters makes it but together horribly. I do think I could make chausses or mittens easily though. Making the rings is probably the hardest part to get right and thankfully theres vendors for rings. Just makes me want maille even more as it shows how much work goes into it basically.
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It does get monotonous rather quickly. I wanted to try the rivetted to get a feel for what is what like (call me wierd that way), and a few hours was enough for me. The chauses are turning into a coif BTW. I already had the springs coiled, and a coif is a smaller project. For the $10.63 I have invested in materials, it'll serve as a cheap placeholder until I can justify buying rivetted to the ladywife ;)
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lol, yes, 10 pence? :) Seriously, I consider $6 to be just fine for a handful of replica coins.
As do I! Lord Gerard, send us the paypal acct name to send it to!