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Title: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-06, 19:20:31
My lady wife just sent this to me.  Think they'll allow weapons at the new venue?  Probably not.   ::)

William

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Md. Renaissance Festival considers new site
Wednesday - 2/5/2014, 2:40pm  ET

CROWNSVILLE, Md. (AP) -- After decades in the same Anne Arundel County location, Maryland Renaissance Festival organizers say they are looking at moving to a new venue.

The Capital reports (http://bit.ly/1nT85CF (http://bit.ly/1nT85CF)) that a Facebook post by Jules Smith, the president of the festival held in Crownsville, raises the possibility that the county could lose the $8 million event, which attracts 300,000 visitors annually and provides hundreds of seasonal jobs.

Smith, who has been seeking a new site for years, says the festival has been offered a "large property directly on a major divided highway with larger fields and woods." He doesn't say where it is.

Smith says organizers love the property they currently lease, but they want to study the new site that offers the possibility of better access and more space.

Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-06, 19:55:24
Well they’ve been grumbling about traffic and space for a few years now so it could very well happen in a couple of years, although I do not think for a second they would allow weapons. No gain in it for them at all to add a liability risk.  :-\
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-02-06, 20:03:00
Hopefully moving closer to me?
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-06, 20:05:00
Sir James, why not try starting one for WV?  Or do they have a RF already?
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-06, 20:09:13
Well sort of…They call it the Apple-Butter festival of Berkley Springs but their ‘Medieval Element’ apparently went off to college! ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-06, 20:21:00
The, uh, Apple-Butter Festival?  Fie on them!  Fie!
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-02-06, 21:36:34
Yeah, they've been contemplating moving for a couple of years now. I suspect (but don't know for sure at all) that part of it is that the landlord at the current location is pushing for a higher cut of the faire's income, and they're pushing back by saying "we'll move".

Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-06, 21:38:33
Well, they bring in quite a bit of funds to the county it seems- as well as visitors from all over.  The landlord, whoever he is, had better have a similar solution setup or he'll just be out of pocket and that's all.  I'm still hoping to win the lottery so I can buy the land the old VARF sat on.  :)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-02-06, 22:50:46
Yeah, they've been contemplating moving for a couple of years now. I suspect (but don't know for sure at all) that part of it is that the landlord at the current location is pushing for a higher cut of the faire's income, and they're pushing back by saying "we'll move".



Greed has no boundaries, even at the cost of the happiness of thousands.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-06, 23:10:17
Well, they bring in quite a bit of funds to the county it seems- as well as visitors from all over.  The landlord, whoever he is, had better have a similar solution setup or he'll just be out of pocket and that's all.  I'm still hoping to win the lottery so I can buy the land the old VARF sat on.  :)

We're of similar mindsets Sir William! :)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2014-02-07, 00:28:51
they have been saying frederick for years now. who knows......
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-02-07, 04:53:30
Sir James, why not try starting one for WV?  Or do they have a RF already?

None I'm aware of, certainly none local. I'm a couple million short... care to invest? All investors in my faire get to bring weapons; and only investors! :D
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-07, 15:49:47
they have been saying frederick for years now. who knows......

That'd be nuts!  That's like...far from me!  lol  Altho, all kidding aside, there's a lot of wide open spaces up in Frederick and points north and east.

Sir Brian ;) - you been thinking about that lone tower out there too, huh?  My lady wife has already given her consent should we ever win- we're buying it and turning it into a compound.  Use w/e existing buildings we can, scrap the rest and build up.  The whole nine yards- including an Order Meadhall set back in the woods...you'd have to take one of the horses to get to it.  Not the black one.  He bites.

Sir James...I was going to say "but its so far" - how funny would that sound to a man who has driven cross country to attend an event?  So, I'll just say- good luck, my Brother.  :)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2014-02-07, 17:59:29
I wish they were moving it to Missouri. Hey, it would still be the "M"DRF!
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-02-08, 04:21:11
they have been saying frederick for years now. who knows......

That'd be nuts!  That's like...far from me!  lol  Altho, all kidding aside, there's a lot of wide open spaces up in Frederick and points north and east.

Sir Brian ;) - you been thinking about that lone tower out there too, huh?  My lady wife has already given her consent should we ever win- we're buying it and turning it into a compound.  Use w/e existing buildings we can, scrap the rest and build up.  The whole nine yards- including an Order Meadhall set back in the woods...you'd have to take one of the horses to get to it.  Not the black one.  He bites.

Sir James...I was going to say "but its so far" - how funny would that sound to a man who has driven cross country to attend an event?  So, I'll just say- good luck, my Brother.  :)

Why cant you guys invest money for an order of the Marshall club In northern Maryland or something. Heck why not p.a. Plenty of woods!
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-08, 12:41:30
they have been saying frederick for years now. who knows......

That'd be nuts!  That's like...far from me!  lol  Altho, all kidding aside, there's a lot of wide open spaces up in Frederick and points north and east.

Sir Brian ;) - you been thinking about that lone tower out there too, huh?  My lady wife has already given her consent should we ever win- we're buying it and turning it into a compound.  Use w/e existing buildings we can, scrap the rest and build up.  The whole nine yards- including an Order Meadhall set back in the woods...you'd have to take one of the horses to get to it.  Not the black one.  He bites.

Sir James...I was going to say "but its so far" - how funny would that sound to a man who has driven cross country to attend an event?  So, I'll just say- good luck, my Brother.  :)

Why cant you guys invest money for an order of the Marshall club In northern Maryland or something. Heck why not p.a. Plenty of woods!

Hey great idea! We'll just use some of our "unlimited" income and make that happen!  ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-02-09, 20:23:50
they have been saying frederick for years now. who knows......

That'd be nuts!  That's like...far from me!  lol  Altho, all kidding aside, there's a lot of wide open spaces up in Frederick and points north and east.

Sir Brian ;) - you been thinking about that lone tower out there too, huh?  My lady wife has already given her consent should we ever win- we're buying it and turning it into a compound.  Use w/e existing buildings we can, scrap the rest and build up.  The whole nine yards- including an Order Meadhall set back in the woods...you'd have to take one of the horses to get to it.  Not the black one.  He bites.

Sir James...I was going to say "but its so far" - how funny would that sound to a man who has driven cross country to attend an event?  So, I'll just say- good luck, my Brother.  :)

Why cant you guys invest money for an order of the Marshall club In northern Maryland or something. Heck why not p.a. Plenty of woods!

Hey great idea! We'll just use some of our "unlimited" income and make that happen!  ;)

Pillage the village then!
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-02-09, 20:53:24
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-02-09, 21:08:22
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

Heh, then you should see the Pittsburgh RenFest. As much as I enjoy my "home fest," PARF blows Pittsburgh out of the water then sets fire to the flotsam. ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-02-10, 01:17:30
Yeah, they each have their pros and cons. Pittsburgh faire is small, but has some nice charm. I like that part of it is wooded. PARF is huge (though of course not as huge as MDRF), has lots of great acts, etc. But it also suffers from having very little shade, and lots of modern pavement.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-02-10, 03:22:58
Yeah, they each have their pros and cons. Pittsburgh faire is small, but has some nice charm. I like that part of it is wooded. PARF is huge (though of course not as huge as MDRF), has lots of great acts, etc. But it also suffers from having very little shade, and lots of modern pavement.


Mdrf has a lot of hills. One really steep one by the kids area.
Parf has hills but but it just feels too, corny. I guess it's too Shakespeare. For me.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-02-10, 04:04:11
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

Heh, then you should see the Pittsburgh RenFest. As much as I enjoy my "home fest," PARF blows Pittsburgh out of the water then sets fire to the flotsam. ;)

Aha! There are two "PARF" faires. I was talking with Nate and Aiden's mom about the PA Renn Fest, having never been myself, but seeing pics that it was mostly tents in a field similar to VARF, and she was describing one with permanent structures and modern pavement. This makes a lot more sense now.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-02-10, 04:10:42
Don't get me wrong, i'll bleed for my PARF in a battle. Admitting I'm like an hour away being in the Ambler/Fort Washington area. Like Sir Edward said there is a lack of shade and a lot of pavement. PARF is larger by-the-way. I just like the less pirate influence at the MDRF too(even though the pirate ship at PARF is hilarious). PARF definitely has great shows and turkey legs. Douglas we must meet sometime at our home grounds. The joust gets a bit too corny especially when the villain yells "I FIGHT FOR EVIL!!(ps its obvious im not going to win)" unlike at MDRF the show isn't planned. I was talking to Sir Barchan of Dingleberry? Anyway, he told me it was actual jousting and was not planned. It kills me when I am watching the show and someone asks me "are you going to joust?" And I respond "if I want a lance through me, yes" because I am wearing maille not plate.

I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

Heh, then you should see the Pittsburgh RenFest. As much as I enjoy my "home fest," PARF blows Pittsburgh out of the water then sets fire to the flotsam. ;)

Aha! There are two "PARF" faires. I was talking with Nate and Aiden's mom about the PA Renn Fest, having never been myself, but seeing pics that it was mostly tents in a field similar to VARF, and she was describing one with permanent structures and modern pavement. This makes a lot more sense now.

Are you sure? There is a grassy field at the PA renn faire. There is also a section with many tents where the civil war men camp out. No, it is the same fair. Our fair also has a mini camp ground in the very back. The fair grounds are VERY large, bigger than MD renn faire.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-02-10, 05:20:05

Aha! There are two "PARF" faires. I was talking with Nate and Aiden's mom about the PA Renn Fest, having never been myself, but seeing pics that it was mostly tents in a field similar to VARF, and she was describing one with permanent structures and modern pavement. This makes a lot more sense now.

Both the Pittsburgh Festival and PARF have permanent structures. PARF is larger and paved and has a lot more "fancy" buildings. That's on the eastern end of PA, near Lancaster. Pittsburgh is a lot smaller and is not paved, but a good chunk of it is nestled in the woods, which is really neat. That one's on the western end of PA near, of course, Pittsburgh. I'm about an hour or so away from it, so it's easy to make a day out of it without having to worry about traveling and motels and such.

Aiden, I'm planning on hitting PARF on the second weekend, I believe, and...another weekend that I can't remember off-hand. :P Maybe we'll be able to meet up this year. :)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-10, 08:41:54
Aiden, I'm planning on hitting PARF on the second weekend, I believe, and...another weekend that I can't remember off-hand. :P Maybe we'll be able to meet up this year. :)

Well that would be cool, however not to throw a monkey wrench into your plans but we are looking into trying to make an appearance at the last day of the Great Lakes Medieval Faire (GLMF) in Geneva, Ohio for a Longsword Demonstration. Even though that faire starts in five months they are accepting applications for the next few weeks and it might be a good opportunity for us to gain more publicity within the renfair circuit since it will be the largest faire we would be doing to date (site is 13 acres with attendance as of 2007 at 45,000).  ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-02-10, 16:12:26
I'll have to double-check my dates, but I'm going to assume that the last weekend of Great Lakes conflicts with the second weekend of PARF, right? Just my luck...lol :P
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-02-10, 20:25:01
You say Western Douglas? Im on the Eastern side near Philly. We go to 2 different fairs :( Ohio you say? Haha DC to me was expensive. I don't think I'm gonna attend that one.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-02-10, 21:42:46
You say Western Douglas? Im on the Eastern side near Philly. We go to 2 different fairs :( Ohio you say? Haha DC to me was expensive. I don't think I'm gonna attend that one.

The one close to me is the Pittsburgh Festival. The one closer to you is PARF, and I go to that one, too. :) It's confusing because they're both technically festivals in PA, but only one is actually called the "Pennsylvania Renaissance Faire."
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-02-10, 23:12:53
You say Western Douglas? Im on the Eastern side near Philly. We go to 2 different fairs :( Ohio you say? Haha DC to me was expensive. I don't think I'm gonna attend that one.

The one close to me is the Pittsburgh Festival. The one closer to you is PARF, and I go to that one, too. :) It's confusing because they're both technically festivals in PA, but only one is actually called the "Pennsylvania Renaissance Faire."


Our renfaire has The state name in it.
Your city had the better Football team.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-02-11, 09:12:32
Your city had the better Football team.

Football?
...Ah yes, that's the sport I would be more impressed with if they wore steel armor and had poleaxes! ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-02-11, 15:49:44
Your city had the better Football team.

Football?
...Ah yes, that's the sport I would be more impressed with if they wore steel armor and had poleaxes! ;)

I've been saying for years that I might actually watch the superbowl if they all had longswords. ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-02-11, 20:54:00
Football does have its roots in antiquity; to me it is reminiscent of the melee style battles of the old jousts before it became a more civilized (and to me, less exciting) fare.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-02-12, 00:33:12
Your city had the better Football team.

Football?
...Ah yes, that's the sport I would be more impressed with if they wore steel armor and had poleaxes! ;)

I've been saying for years that I might actually watch the superbowl if they all had longswords. ;)

We also have the most annoying football fans. Though if they all started waving around flails instead of their towels, I'd go for that. ;)

Isn't Maryland's official state sport jousting?
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-02-12, 04:14:39
Your city had the better Football team.

Football?
...Ah yes, that's the sport I would be more impressed with if they wore steel armor and had poleaxes! ;)

I've been saying for years that I might actually watch the superbowl if they all had longswords. ;)

We also have the most annoying football fans. Though if they all started waving around flails instead of their towels, I'd go for that. ;)

Isn't Maryland's official state sport jousting?

Yup, since 1962, but has been practiced even in colonial times.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-02-12, 15:03:08
Isn't Maryland's official state sport jousting?

It is, sort-of. The version of jousting, is the "jousting games" version, such as lancing a ring. It's not the "full tilting at each other" kind. Also, there's been a strong movement to replace it with Lacrosse as the official sport.

I think last I heard, they compromised and made Lacrosse the official modern sport, and Jousting the official historical sport... or something like that. Might be worth googling.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-03-14, 17:50:59
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

MDRF is nothing but traffic congestion at its present location. I would not mind easing that so I can get there on time for once.

PARF is located on the private land of a winery. Doesn't get any better than that . :) :) :)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-14, 22:23:27
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

MDRF is nothing but traffic congestion at its present location. I would not mind easing that so I can get there on time for once.

PARF is located on the private land of a winery. Doesn't get any better than that . :) :) :)

I meant the physical landscape and the shady woods. The traffic is terrible, I must admit. But like I said, I hope the relocation would keep the same atmosphere and environment.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-03-16, 04:14:07
I sure hope they don't move, the lay out at MDRF is so perfect! Though I get why they would want to. I sure hope they don't become like the PARF.

MDRF is nothing but traffic congestion at its present location. I would not mind easing that so I can get there on time for once.

PARF is located on the private land of a winery. Doesn't get any better than that . :) :) :)

I meant the physical landscape and the shady woods. The traffic is terrible, I must admit. But like I said, I hope the relocation would keep the same atmosphere and environment.

And the drive will be within reason.
I also want to say they have really sweet wine there. I hear that's not great.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-06-11, 08:08:08
This is the proposed new location if they can get past all the zoning meetings. Not a bad location I think even though it will add another 30 minutes travel for me since MD-301 kind of sucks with the traffic lights.  :-\

http://southriversource.com/2014/06/09/site-plans-for-the-renaissance-festivals-potential-move-to-lothian-ahead-of-tuesdays-meeting/ (http://southriversource.com/2014/06/09/site-plans-for-the-renaissance-festivals-potential-move-to-lothian-ahead-of-tuesdays-meeting/)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-06-11, 13:28:09
I think this is the parking location, on google maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/6100+Southern+Maryland+Blvd/@38.775317,-76.6684567,2952m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b791c005354521:0xf69176025e77b60 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/6100+Southern+Maryland+Blvd/@38.775317,-76.6684567,2952m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b791c005354521:0xf69176025e77b60)

For us, the distance is about the same. It just means going around the south side of the beltway instead of north.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir William on 2014-06-11, 15:47:01
This is further away from me...so I'm sad.  But...if it is due to growth, then I'm happy.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-06-11, 17:22:06
Looks about 10 miles farther to me... 100 miles vs 90 miles, more or less. And having to go around south-side beltway, which will add a number of stoplights and likely traffic delays. Guess that'll reduce how many times I go.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Ian on 2014-06-11, 17:41:42
Looks about 10 miles farther to me... 100 miles vs 90 miles, more or less. And having to go around south-side beltway, which will add a number of stoplights and likely traffic delays. Guess that'll reduce how many times I go.

Boy it would be nice if any event was inside 200 miles for me :)

The only exception is VARF at a measly 147 miles.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-06-11, 22:06:37
Boy it would be nice if any event was inside 200 miles for me :)

The only exception is VARF at a measly 147 miles.

Time to invent a teleporter! Oh wait, that would be out of period. ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-06-11, 22:08:21
It’s great that they’re considering moving because they’re getting bigger and all, but they’re moving in the wrong direction! They need to move more northwest-ish....it’s purely coincidental that that direction would put it closer to me. ;)
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-06-11, 22:37:50
Looks about 10 miles farther to me... 100 miles vs 90 miles, more or less. And having to go around south-side beltway, which will add a number of stoplights and likely traffic delays. Guess that'll reduce how many times I go.

Boy it would be nice if any event was inside 200 miles for me :)

The only exception is VARF at a measly 147 miles.


Move closer to us. :D

VARF is about 120 miles for me, but at least it's a multi-day event. Point duly noted though!
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-06-12, 03:04:46
Boy it would be nice if any event was inside 200 miles for me :)

The only exception is VARF at a measly 147 miles.

Time to invent a teleporter! Oh wait, that would be out of period. ;)

Not for the 'Time Traveler' theme weekend.
Title: Re: MD Renaissance Faire moving to a new venue?
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-06-12, 15:53:15
Boy it would be nice if any event was inside 200 miles for me :)

The only exception is VARF at a measly 147 miles.

Time to invent a teleporter! Oh wait, that would be out of period. ;)

Not for the 'Time Traveler' theme weekend.

Or if your a Time Bandit ;)