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Miscellaneous => The Market Square => Topic started by: Allan Senefelder on 2012-03-07, 17:42:40
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http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=25455 (http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=25455)
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Huzzah! :D
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Congrats!
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And...they're already gone! Wish it was like this when you were in business, Allan.
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Lucky!
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Thanks. "My name is James, and I'm an armor addict." It's almost time for another armor stand. :D
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This is why I wish I had a normal leg size, I could pick up some of this fine armor.
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Congratulations James and Allan! :)
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This is why I wish I had a normal leg size, I could pick up some of this fine armor.
Let me guess tall and thin?
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This is why I wish I had a normal leg size, I could pick up some of this fine armor.
Give it some time. I didn't "fill out" to the limb size I am now until I was 21 or 22. My stomach is quite large, but my arms and legs are mostly lean in comparison.
Congratulations James and Allan! :)
Thank you, Sir Brian.
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Allan, Ulrich is short and thin- and I used to be of the mind that his was a somewhat unique case, at least in the SCA but I've been informed that there are a lot of smaller fighters out there.
Ulrich, James is right...you may fill out as the years go by, Lord knows I did. I hit 6' at 18, but had only gained 8lbs (making me 120lbs at the time) from when I was just 5'2". I started filling out in my early-to-mid 20s...I weigh 185 lbs now, which is about 15 more than I'd like, but there you have it. I didn't start getting size to my limbs until after I started hitting the weights (which also helped with the filling out process...I was only 128lbs when I first got married at age 19 to give you some perspective).
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I am 5' 9" So normal leg size stuff fits me height wise but my thinness is way too high as I only weigh 119 pounds. I always need a belt for every pair of pants I wear except my skinny jeans. I actually think medieval armor from the actual ages would fit me better than most modern reproductions as people said at faires to me before.
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Well, I'm not altogether sure about that. Mind you, I don't have any excavated samples with me, but I'm of the mind, given the amount of strength and exercise that was needed to become and continue to be a knight, these were not small men. They may have been short, but not small.
If Allan was still in business, he would be the man to see...I still think I got over as the armor he's made for me was to my measurements, but at off the rack pricing. There is only one other armourer out there that could compare with his prices (but not his quality as far as I'm concerned, this guy's a bit more...utilitarian in design). Not that his quality is low, he puts out good, servicable wares...it just won't be as pretty. Considering your persona is landless/poor knight, it should be right up your alley. Here's his site, pointed right at the leg portion of it: http://jamesriverarmoury.com/legs.htm (http://jamesriverarmoury.com/legs.htm)
He is known on the Armour Archive as ArmourerEric; I've not sampled his wares, but he comes highly regarded and very easy on the pocketbook (comparatively speaking of course).
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From what I've read, historical greaves are much smaller. Knights seemed to have tiny calves. Theory is that since they rode horses almost everywhere, their lower legs were underdeveloped. Staying in the saddle is more groin/upper leg strength, and with cuisses being open in the back or only wraps, and not cased like greaves, it's a wide range of sizing it could fit, compared to the specific measurements we can take from cased greaves.
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Hm. That makes sense to me; only I would think underdeveloped calves would be detrimental in the event of a fight on foot.
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I actually think medieval armor from the actual ages would fit me better than most modern reproductions as people said at faires to me before.
Having owned ALOT of period armour ( what used to be on the site was my second collection of originals, the first got gone due to some one elses bad behavior ) theres plenty of variation in size then to. The maximillian leg I used to own fit me fine as did the munnion, the 17 century curassiers arm and pauldron assembley. Every gauntlet i've owned has been a little small but years of hammering my be a factor in that. I've owned three breast plates all late 16th or 17th century. Tow of the three fit, one on the tight side. Only the late 17th century siege breast plate fit me well. All the close helmets i've owned fit fine, the English burgeonet I owned and the cabassette that I owned were both to small.
What James said about greaves is generally true in that they can sometimes be quite narrow. The theory that he's positied as to why is one that i've heard before but can't attest to its truth or falsehood.
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also think about where the armour was made and who it was made for. most of us now are what, a good healthy mix of cultures, ethnicitys or even regions that our ancestors would never have met let alone mix with. so armour is gonna fit us modern guys a lot different than periods guys.
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What James said about greaves is generally true in that they can sometimes be quite narrow. The theory that he's positied as to why is one that i've heard before but can't attest to its truth or falsehood.
The theory isn't my own. Just repeating one I have seen or heard suggested a few times that seems to make sense to me.
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The theory isn't my own. Just repeating one I have seen or heard suggested a few times that seems to make sense to me.
Certainly James, and I appologize if I came off as attributing it to you. I try not to talk in absolutes regarding medieval physiology, especially in the face of so much new evidence comming to light with the wave of forensic archeology thats come on over the last 20 years, a great deal has been learned. The idea that medieval people were shorter has by and large been dealt with due to this. The common classes often were but only by vitue of poor diet and the stunted growth that came from it. The upper classes often reached 6 feet or even better due to the vastly superior diet.
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No worries. I was not sure if you meant posted or posited so I just wanted to make sure I clarify the theory is not my own.