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Title: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-14, 15:43:05
Is anyone playing this besides me?  The sheer scope of the game is...well, its huge, in a word.  The world, on a flat map, is roughly the same size as Oblivion but if you factor in the number of mountains, hills, dales and such that make navigation a good deal more difficult and it is at least twice the size it was in Oblivion.  The models, colors and textures are all what you'd expect at this stage of development in games, the writing/scripting and voice acting are superb (the cast includes Christopher Plummer, Max von Sydow, Joan Allen, Lynda Carter, Vladimir Kulich and Michael Hogan), but there are a few faults, some minor, some major.

One major fault that I've run into is that the game tends to freeze, for no real reason.  I've gotten into the habit of saving regularly just in case it occurs.  Since I started playing a couple of weeks ago, it has frozen at least four or five times; once after I'd gone a couple of hours just gallivanting thru the country side but no autosaves occurred as I'd not transitioned between indoor and outdoor environments (the game will usually autosave when moving between the two)...that was a bummer, but it provided an opportunity to try a different approach.  Still sucked having lost all that work though.

That's my one major beef...this game is not as intuitive as the previous one, if only because the world is so large, sometimes it can be hard to figure out where to go next.  I do like interacting with the different townsfolk between Holds...the dialog isn't cookie cutter- that is, what one merchant says in, say, Whiterun, won't be exactly the same as what another would say in Riverwood, beyond the usual merchant stuff regarding wares.  They've managed to craft a world that would feel like a living, breathing thing, if it weren't for the blasted freezing!

Still...I've managed to learn two Words of Power (thu'um they are called) and I've just recently collected my first Dragon Soul (the power you'll need in order to be able to utter a specific Word of Power).  I can tell you this, a Level 15 Warrior with an upgraded WoP can take down a good number of enemy combatants singlehandedly.  Dragons are of course a good bit harder.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-14, 16:21:36

I've been hearing a lot of good things about it. I'm tempted to look into it.

I used to play a lot of single-player RPGs, but then I took an arrow to the knee. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-02-14, 19:27:14
I used to play a lot of single-player RPGs, but then I took an arrow to the knee. :)

Beat me to it. :D

My brother plays it - as far as I know, has beaten it. He had the previous one, too. Seems to like them. If you get stuck on anything, I can ask him what to do.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-02-14, 21:18:49
ive played all of them since the third one, theyre all great but skyrim when it first came out was very glitchy and buggy, one of my quest lines was bugged and now i cannot finish it on my main character (so now i cant do the thieves guild anymore) but i beat everything and found almost every location in the game, i think im high 60s right now, the max lvl is 83. I havent been playing it though cause theres nothing left for me to do but ill start playing again once the next expansion comes out, (not going to be soon they said)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-02-15, 00:28:03
Haven't had any issues with Skyrim, been playing on PC since release.  HD pack installed, and I tweaked the .ini's for better quality, and it runs smooth as glass.  Depending on your video card, if you have an nvidia card, geforce.com has some good guides for tweaks in Skyrim.

I much prefer Skyrim to Oblivion.  I like the location a lot better, the storyline, the animations, everything... I like to take breaks from the main story line and kind of get lost in side quests for a while and then come back to the main story.  It's a great world to lose yourself in.  Dragon Age 2 was a huge disappointment to me, so I had a lot of hopes set on Skyrim and so far it hasn't disappointed.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-15, 15:17:19
I'm enjoying the side quests myself...in Oblivion I think I completed a good majority of the side quests before I finished the main quest.  I liked having that big momentous occasion that needed to be addressed at the end.

Ian, you said you were disappointed in Dragon Age 2...what about it did you not like?  I haven't played it; but I did enjoy DA and DAO, even tho the combat was pretty simplistic.  What I would love, ideally, is for an Assassin's Creed moveset and abilities in Skyrim (or similar game)...just having that many options available was pretty awesome.  I still have yet to crack Revelations.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-02-16, 00:37:33
Ian, you said you were disappointed in Dragon Age 2...what about it did you not like?  I haven't played it; but I did enjoy DA and DAO, even tho the combat was pretty simplistic.  What I would love, ideally, is for an Assassin's Creed moveset and abilities in Skyrim (or similar game)...just having that many options available was pretty awesome.  I still have yet to crack Revelations.

I enjoyed Dragon Age a lot, but Dragon Age 2 for me really crossed over from RPG to Action RPG.  When I say that I mean it got too 'console-ish'.  I'm a die-hard Computer RPG fan.  BioWare has always been my favorite too, back to the days of Baldur's Gate 1 / 2, Icewind Dale, Neverwinter Nights... etc... Dragon Age was definitely similar to those in my opinion, but Dragon Age 2 felt like it was designed for Xbox with the 14 year old ADD console player in mind and ported to the PC.  That's why I loved The Witcher 2 so much.  The story in the Witcher 2 is top notch, waaayyy better and more mature than Dragon Age 2, and hearkened back to the PC RPG's of old. 

Dragon Age 2 is also big on those over-sized anime style weapons, and I'm not a huge Japanese rpg fan, (with the exception of the old school Final Fantasy games on NES and SNES), so I didn't like that style aspect to it.

For that isometric view CRPG though, Witcher 2 is stellar.  For first person RPG, Skyrim is in my opinion the creme de la creme.  The world is so immersive in Skyrim.  It's one of those games where I find myself stopping to just stare and admire the view of the landscape for a while.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-16, 14:35:08

Dang it, you guys are making me want to get Skyrim. :)

It's on Steam, right?
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-16, 15:50:35
Yes sir, it is on Steam.  So last night, I was supposed to be on my way to pick up the horn of Jurgen Windcaller (mild spoiler alert) - of course, this is after you've learned your first few Words of Power.  By default, you end up learning Unrelenting Force and I forget the name of the other, but it allows you to move across a short distance REALLY fast.  I was blasting all over the place with that (after it recharges of course lol) and ended up finding a dwarven ruin...all these gears and cogs and stuff, almost like the Dwarves had discovered how to harness steam power in clockwork-style creations, much like in Dragon Age with the golems.  The 'defensive spheres' roll about like like the droideka battlebots in SW: Phantom Menace.  Pretty damn cool if you ask me.

Ian, thanks for the headsup...I don't mind so much the oversized weapons in video games, makes'm easier to see, but I do understand where you're coming from.  The First Templar was like that for me (dumbed down for ADD kids)...while I haven't done PC games since Age of Empires: AoK I definitely recall how fresh the experience seems when compared to consoles, but consoles offer a huge selection of games that do not require hardware updates in order to run...since money is always tighter than I'd like it, I opted for consoles some years back because I feel you get more bang for your buck.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-17, 00:04:27


42% downloaded, but can't play til next week. Doh!
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-17, 13:11:57


42% downloaded, but can't play til next week. Doh!

Well, I got as far as entering the first little town last night. But that's all I get to do til next week. Nice start though. The environments are beautiful. I didn't get to toy with it too much, but I didn't see in the UI how you cast spells? Hitting things with my sword, I have that covered.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-17, 15:00:35
Are you on PC as well, Sir Edward?  If so, I am not sure how that works...in the console version, you can hotlink your favorite spells to a Favorite category (along with any favorite weapons and armor and potions you might've put into this category) - you can cast spells with either hand.  If you're to be the spellsword type, then the right trigger will do the swordwork and the left trigger will cast the spells...or you could go no weapons and both hands will cast.

Why can you not play til next week, though?  That's almost like getting a new piece of harness and being told you can't wear it for a week!  It'd drive me nuts.  lol
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-17, 16:18:19

Yeah, I saw the option to mark things as "favorite", but I didn't know how that would apply to specific keys or mouse buttons.

I'm heading off to a convention today. Giving R2 a nice chance to get out and see his adoring fans. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-17, 19:12:31
R2?  What con you goin to?

I'm thinking you could hotkey certain elements, a la AoE's ability to hotkey troops; as for UI, maybe the other mouse button if you're using the left one for sword work?
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-02-17, 19:20:04
I'm heading off to a convention today. Giving R2 a nice chance to get out and see his adoring fans. :)

Sounds like time to install a PC in R2 so you can play on the go. ;)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-02-17, 19:58:06


42% downloaded, but can't play til next week. Doh!

Well, I got as far as entering the first little town last night. But that's all I get to do til next week. Nice start though. The environments are beautiful. I didn't get to toy with it too much, but I didn't see in the UI how you cast spells? Hitting things with my sword, I have that covered.

You have to buy/find spell books to get new spells, then equip the spell to a hand just like a sword
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-02-18, 19:14:28
Hey guys, I was fooling around with some Skyrim mods and came across one that I think you would appreciate.  Here's an armor mod that uses armor models from The Witcher 2, but as you can see, they're pretty awesome historically accurate 15th century gothic pieces.  Not exactly the perfect fit for Skyrim, but awesome nonetheless.  First one is with a sallet, the second with a barbute.  The shield is also from Witcher 2, and the sword is from a different mod called JaySuS Swords or something to that effect.  I'm just standing next to the Skyforge is Whiterun.  There's a bunch of different heraldic versions of that armor and shield as well, all craftable and improvable if you got the blacksmithing perks.

I'm not a fan of the 'good' armor in Skyrim, it looks too silly imho, so I like the idea that I can use armor from mods to get the look I want and then just use that as I progress through the story.  The last screenshot is from a mod called 'Lore Friendly Armor'  It allows me to use good heavy armor, that still fits the character and the world of Skyrim without going all crazy fantasy.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6897803813_da4253e12d_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6897804051_bb3a01f8b5_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6897869073_de9ed06fc3_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-19, 12:36:23

Interesting. So if you can only "equip" spells into the hands, I take it you don't have quick access to the rest during a fight. That's a little different than what I'm used to with MMORPGs and the like.

How do the spells stack up later in the game? Worth it? Some older RPGs used to make it really hard to solo through as a mage class, so I've typically gone for a hybrid blend. But if swords are the way to go, I can stick with that too.

Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-02-19, 13:04:56

Interesting. So if you can only "equip" spells into the hands, I take it you don't have quick access to the rest during a fight. That's a little different than what I'm used to with MMORPGs and the like.

How do the spells stack up later in the game? Worth it? Some older RPGs used to make it really hard to solo through as a mage class, so I've typically gone for a hybrid blend. But if swords are the way to go, I can stick with that too.

If you favorite your spells, you can switch quickly in the middle of a fight.  Depending on which mouse button you use to select your favorite, it will assign that spell to your appropriate hand.  On the PC left mouse button = right hand, and right mouse button = left hand.  Sounds backwards at first, but it makes sense since the left mouse button is the primary button and the right hand the primary hand (to us normal folk!, ha!).

If you have the same spell in both hands, and cast both at once, you typically get a larger combined effect, which makes playing a pure caster a lot of fun.  You can definitely go pure mage in Skyrim if you want.  You can go pure anything or any hybrid you want and still play without ruining the experience.  You improve the skills of what you use.  So if you cast destruction magic all the time, you will steadily get better at it, if you use one-handed weapons all the time, your skill with them will improve.  This is true of almost everything in the game, use it, get better at it.

The opposite is true as well, if you don't pick up a bow until you're level 40, don't expect to be awesome at archery.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-19, 13:26:58
OK cool, I'll play around with the favorites and see if I like the mechanic. I may go full mage if it's easy to work with. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-02-19, 21:32:49
Those are some really cool screen shots. I may have to look into the Witcher, just based on those armor models.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-21, 17:26:28
Nice armor mods, Ian...wish I could have something like that in-game, I'd totally rock that out.

Sir Edward, it would seem this time around that the pure mage would actually be quite fun to play...I'm playing more like a spell sword so my spells aren't as powerful as they could be (but my one-hand and block abilities are) but even so, they pack a punch that I can only imagine would be even more deadly if that were my focus.  I've never really been one for magic, only using what I needed to get me by.  Nothing wrong with a handy fireball tho!  It is fun to wield a sword and fire off spells at the same time tho...I cannot recall if you were able to do it in Oblivion, I only know I didn't.

[spoiler alert]
So I was meandering about in the mountains, just started walking down Mt. Anthor from the Throat of the World (I have to say, this is probably the most beautiful game I've played in a long time set in this type of era...taking nothing away from Assassin's Creed which is always at the top of the heap in terms of visuals, this is a huge open world and none of it is ugly unintentionally...hate the odd, intermittent crash/freeze tho) and ended up discovering a few hidden caves and such that I left for later discovery (by this point, I was re-acquiring the pieces of Wuthrad, the mighty axe of Ysgramor) since I had to get back to the Skyforge so that Wuthrad could be reforged and given back into Ysgramor's keeping- in order to open up his crypt and all that.

What I am loving about this game is how much there is to find...I found a book in a corner of a cave that led to another mission that involves finding the enchanted weapon of some long-dead hero...don't know why yet, I'm just geeking over how much there is to do!  So much so, that I've not yet been able to get in bed before 1:30am, weeknight, weekend, doesn't matter...I'm like a little kid at Christmas!

I'm already strategizing the next run-thru; right now I'm a Nord and I'm debating on whether or not to support the Imperial Army or the Stormcloaks.  You see, I'm not really in love with the rebels, because they're all about the Nord people to the detriment of everyone else, so by my very nature I'd go for the Imperials, but I want to see what happens on the other end of the structure so as I'm a Nord (light armor, singlehand weapon and shield), I'll go with the rebels.

I'm coming back as a Redguard tho, heavy armor, dual weapon style.  Now that I've gotten a pretty good understanding of what works and what might not, my approach to the game is going to be different as I now know where I want to go and how I want the secondary and tertiary missions to play out.  I've already got 75 hours in the game...I think what I'll do is get to the main story ending, then start a new game w/out acquiring all of the interesting little bits there are to have.

Oh, one thing I should mention...horses by and large seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  They aren't much faster than you on foot, and you cannot fight from horseback- which sort of kills the point of having them in the game as usable transpo.  Taking the horse drawn cart is only good and worthwhile if you're travelling to a Hold you've never been to before...beyond that, fast travel on foot is the easiest and cheapest way to go. 
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-21, 18:57:58
Oh, one thing I should mention...horses by and large seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  They aren't much faster than you on foot, and you cannot fight from horseback- which sort of kills the point of having them in the game as usable transpo.  Taking the horse drawn cart is only good and worthwhile if you're travelling to a Hold you've never been to before...beyond that, fast travel on foot is the easiest and cheapest way to go.

I noticed this too. I had just enough coin to buy one, and then ended up restoring from my save-game from before the purchase to undo it. I could see very quickly that it's just better to use quick-travel, and get to new places on foot.

Yeah, I think the pure mage could be a lot of fun. I've often gone for more hybrid classes, when pure magery hasn't been well balanced, but this looks like it'll work well. I got the talent that boosts the ability if you use both hands, and you can burn things down pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-21, 21:42:23
Oh man...dual casting.  Yea...I'm thinking you'll notice after a while that you'll be able to burn through just about anyone or anything w/out too much hassle.  Was reading about how pure mages finally have a game where they can let go...which is very cool, I think.  I disliked being a mage in the past because it never seemed like you could go on w/out having some form of hand weapon and armor.

D&D's Baldur's Gate (console) was the first time I'd ever messed around with mages and between the pink and blue-hued armor and the necessity of using blunt weapons to bolster offensive capabilities- and more of the same in the sequel, Dark Alliance...then Champions of Norrath I and II...I got soured on being a mage.

I know one thing...with the amount of spell casting and potion-making, you probably would never have need of a melee weapon.  I'd keep a bow handy for the earlier parts (a bow is the great equalizer if you can sneak up on your enemies) and a dagger, if you like sneaking around, there's an upgrade you can get where using a dagger to backstab and your dagger's output is multiplied by 6 times!!!  Enough to take almost anyone down with a single stab to the back.

I've never really been able to sneak up on them, but last night, I came across a set of dwarven boots that were enhanced with a 'Muffle' enchantment; what I did was destroy those boots at an Arcane enchanter table so I could discover the enchantment.  I think there's at least one such table in every Hold; first one I found was in Dragonreach, the governing center for Whiterun Hold.  It is in the court mage's room.  Anyhow, cool thing is, now I can use that enchantment on any piece of armor I want (that isn't already augmented w/another enchantment); I found a necklace that carried a Sneak enchantment; between that and Muffle, they'll never hear me coming!

If you're doing a warrior type, I highly suggest investing in your Smithing ability.  I'm a Level 25 Warrior, but I'm wearing high-end enchanted Glass armor (remember, I'm going for the light armor type this go-round), with enchanted Glass weapons (sword and recurve bow); the sword is augmented by Fire and the bow by Frost enchantments, adding additional damage to their already high output.

You know you're bad ass when you can take down two Giants and a Mammoth and only need one health potion during the fight.  You can't really outrun them once you've got their attention...I mean you can, but really, who runs from a fight in a video game?  :)  But they're not slow pokes...once they get up to speed they're like buses...they just keep coming.

Oh, and don't discount the Shout ability.  Unrelenting Force, once you learn all three Words, is just plain awesome.  A three stage type of power...tap the left lower trigger (at least on a PS3 it works this way) and you see a wall of force erupt from your mouth to your opponents; hold it down for just a sec and you get the second stage of that power.  I've never used the third stage yet...have not needed it.  The first stage is enough to stop a mammoth in its tracks!!!  Just enough for you to give it to him good from the flank!

I don't know if you've noticed it yet, but it has some pretty cool final kill animations, not unlike Assassins Creed.  First few times it happened, I wasn't sure what was going on...look at all this crap I typed; guess it is safe to say I like the game.

:)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-02-21, 22:55:41
Oh, one thing I should mention...horses by and large seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  They aren't much faster than you on foot, and you cannot fight from horseback- which sort of kills the point of having them in the game as usable transpo.  Taking the horse drawn cart is only good and worthwhile if you're travelling to a Hold you've never been to before...beyond that, fast travel on foot is the easiest and cheapest way to go.

I noticed this too. I had just enough coin to buy one, and then ended aup restoring from my save-game from before the purchase to undo it. I could see very quickly that it's just better to use quick-travel, and get to new places on foot.

Yeah, I think the pure mage could be a lot of fun. I've often gone for more hybrid classes, when pure magery hasn't been well balanced, but this looks like it'll work well. I got the talent that boosts the ability if you use both hands, and you can burn things down pretty quickly.

Ed, assuming you're on PC, go to the steam workshop and subscribe to the faster vanilla horses mod.  It makes the horses worwhile and you'll want to ride them around instead of fast traveling. just to check out tthe scenery.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-22, 14:25:30
Cool, I subscribed to that mod. I also picked up a mod for conjurable ethereal horses. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but it looks excellent. They're also slightly faster than normal horses, and you can summon them as a spell-cast (5k gold as a tome from a vendor). They de-spawn as soon as you dismount, and also will not run off into combat without you. :) I'll probably save up the gold and use that.

According to Steam, I've put in about 5 hours, but it doesn't feel like I've done much yet. I've only done two mission excursions outside of the towns, and otherwise have been doing in-town quests and talking everyone up. I'm around level 4 or 5.

I'm mostly going pure mage, but I'm drawing my sword as soon as the magicka runs out, so I'm keeping some skill going with that. I'm also using lockpicks to get into boxes and the like, but otherwise am avoiding the thief skills. It's beneath my honor. :)

Excellent game, but I can see how it can become a huge time-sink, like an MMO. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-22, 18:16:14
HUGE time sink.  I was wrong, I'm not quite at 70 hours yet...but there's still so much left to do.  As I said, I like wrapping up the main story after I've cleared out a lot of the secondary and tertiary quests...that's just me.  Once the big story's done, I have a hard time staying focused in-world...so I usually just start a new one.  Well, after countless hours of having done that, I'm going to do it right this time.

Its just...I keep finding myself getting side tracked and having an absolute BLAST doing it.  Forgot about the Magicka drain (as I'm primarily melee and bow-oriented, I use magic as a back up to my main weapons)...that will be less of a bother as you go.  Bone up on your armor spells; then you won't need to wear armor- you can either augment clothing or conjure up armor before battle...one word of caution- there is a LOT of loot out there.  I have to remember to go back and revisit some of the dungeons I've been to before...and they will have a status of 'cleared' once you've beaten them once, but I know there's a great deal of loot that I couldn't take with me because I could only carry so much.

Sir Edward, ordinarily we would agree, but I entreat you to begin thieving...some really nice stuff to be had that can't be had unless you can get past the lock.  ;)

Hey, if you feel really bad about it, start donating gold to any of the Holds' destitute residents, that's what I do!  Not often, but only because I haven't found them all yet...but I don't shirk the largesse part, that would be beneath my honor.  ;)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-22, 19:35:38
Every time you start the game, this is the song you hear at the title screen; I love it.  This one actually has the lyrics to the song.

Skyrim: The Song of the Dragonborn (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnRQJxanVM#ws)

Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-22, 19:39:03
This an excellent cover of the Bard's song (you'll hear this at some point in every tavern you enter in-world), by Malufenix.  She does this cool splitscreen thing where she's singing the other harmonics as well...pretty cool.

‪The Dragonborn Comes - Skyrim Bard Song and Main Theme Female Cover‬ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z9TdDCWN7g#ws)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-02-24, 23:13:41
Just a warning here, dont put any skill points on stuff your not going to use. Like speech. Putting points into speech is USELESS in my opinion. every level you get 1 skill point, the max level is 83. so thats 83 skill points. Dont waste any cause you cant revert your skills!
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2012-02-25, 03:22:53
I love Skyrim! How did I miss this thread?

anyway, I've got about 130 hours, and have beaten all the main quests with a melee-oriented Nord, who's about level 30 or so. I went Imperial with him. I then made a "Cheat" character (for purposes of pushing the game to it's limit w/ various effects and such.)

BTW, Sir William, with perks you can get backstab to x15 damage. W/ the dark brotherhood gauntlets, it becomes x30.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-02-28, 17:47:18
Actually just found a copy of The Witcher (the first one) so im gonna see how it is
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-29, 18:35:23
Leganoth, that is in addition to level-by-usage...any powers or abilities you use regularly are going to level up on their own; I think what you're talking about are the Perks for those abilities.  I leveled my Smithing ability to 100 by making and upgrading weapons and armor, smelting ore into usable ingots and tanning hides to make leathers and leather strapping.  Any skill you use will level on its own, but the Perks are important too.  For instance, my Smith ability is 100, but if I didn't add the Perks for different types of armor, I wouldn't be able to make anything beyond the iron and steel armors.  I also wouldn't be able to make them better than they were originally.  I wanted the armor so I went hard on that...so I'm a level 35 Nord Warrior wearing Legendary Dragonscale armor (there are differing degrees of upgrades, Legendary seems to be the best of the type of upgrades); I carry an upgraded Daedric sword and an upgraded Daedric bow with a lightning augmentation.  I use a Firebolt spell w/the sword instead of a shield- just because I don't see a need for a shield at this point, unless I'd use it for some other augmentation that I'm not currently needing.

Keep the Perks for the skills you use the most...I think you'll get the most bang for the buck like that.  I'm looking to be fully leveled (or close) in One-Hand skill and Archery.

I'm at 95 hours now and I seem to keep getting mired down in side and miscellaneous type quests...great fun, great fun...that Redguard character's just gonna have to wait.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-02-29, 19:02:03

I ended up getting distracted away from it. I'll get back to playing sooner or later. But in a way I got a little gamed-out after a long stretch of SWTOR. Heh. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-02-29, 22:10:05
Sir Edward...if I were you, I'd take a solid week and clear your mind of the Force imperatives; when you dive into Skyrim, you'll be fresh and ready.  Its gonna get you!

Sir Nathan, thanks for that headsup...I knew there was some modifier for the Backstab, just forgot what that was.  Sorta precludes the need for a sword if you're an adept at Sneak...I charmed my boots w/a Muffle spell so my armor doesn't clink or clank when I'm moving in sneak mode; just learned an invisibility spell that I haven't put to use yet but figure it'll be MONSTER coupled with the Backstab.  Got a Glass dagger I made just for that job...haven't enchanted it yet because I'm trying to decide if it would be worth enchanting.  I mean, I guess I could tie an Absorb Stamina or Damage Stamina spell to it, but is that really necessary?  That's a one-hit kill for almost anyone just about, right?
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-03-01, 01:01:23
Epic! \m/
Skyrim: Modern Dovahkiin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4bYnUsAvn0#ws)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-03-01, 01:51:28
WOW. We seriously need to find a way to do some "promos" like that. The atmosphere is amazing for what I assume to be a fan video? I don't care much for the cutaway to guitar stuff, but the first minute was epic!
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-03-01, 02:54:53
Yep, I would love to make some cool imagery to put up on youtube. I have the software to do special effects too, you know. :)

The hard part is finding locations.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-03-01, 05:28:20
Sir Edward...if I were you, I'd take a solid week and clear your mind of the Force imperatives; when you dive into Skyrim, you'll be fresh and ready.  Its gonna get you!

Sir Nathan, thanks for that headsup...I knew there was some modifier for the Backstab, just forgot what that was.  Sorta precludes the need for a sword if you're an adept at Sneak...I charmed my boots w/a Muffle spell so my armor doesn't clink or clank when I'm moving in sneak mode; just learned an invisibility spell that I haven't put to use yet but figure it'll be MONSTER coupled with the Backstab.  Got a Glass dagger I made just for that job...haven't enchanted it yet because I'm trying to decide if it would be worth enchanting.  I mean, I guess I could tie an Absorb Stamina or Damage Stamina spell to it, but is that really necessary?  That's a one-hit kill for almost anyone just about, right?

If your gonna use a dagger for backstabs put soul trap on it, VERY useful in my opinion, and on bows too cause both are used in stealth kills
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-03-01, 14:23:33

Stealth? My plan is to burst through the door and burninate everything. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-03-01, 18:34:41

Stealth? My plan is to burst through the door and burninate everything. :)


Trogdor the Burninator Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHF_bIjIPAE#)

http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html (http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-03-01, 18:42:25
LOL

He's not talkin to you, Sir Edward- at least I don't think so, he's talkin to me.  I use the bow quite effectively, it has quite a bit of reach on it.  I've stood on cliffs and shot down across rivers and tagged my prey.  I have a soul trap spell I can use, or an enchantment that I lifted off of another blade...but I don't have a huge use for souls right now.  You do need them to enchant anything, but I have a couple black soul gems already filled, and a few of the white ones too.  There's just so much you can get into, sometimes its hard to find a starting point.

Of course, Sir Edward's way is probably going to be the coolest way to go through the game, if only because its the first game that gives mages their just due...if you're a mage you shouldn't have to carry weaponry or wear armor, I mean, that's the point, right?

Stealth is very useful early on, but as you say, if your purpose is to 'burninate' everything in the room, why sneak up on them to do it?  Although you're gonna wanna avoid giants and mammoths for the nonce...they pack a helluva wallop, altho they're no sweat for me now.

LMAO @ TROGDOR

Sir Edward, you know you have to use that name for your character now, and post vids of his exploits!
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-03-01, 20:22:50

lol, no worries, I knew you guys were talking stealth amongst yourselves.

Sir James got my reference right away, lol.

Yeah, now I wish I had made my character one of those lizard men and named him Trogdor. :)

Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2012-03-01, 21:16:07
Haha, yeah I'm making a high-elf mage right now. Just started, so I'm only level 5. The Burninate strategy works out pretty well though  :)
Really fun to lead them onto runes (magic land mines) .
Burninate all the things!

for once magic also looks cool and impressive. Not some goofy side thing.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2012-03-01, 21:18:32
TROGDOR!!!!!!!!!! the burninator
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-03-01, 21:27:24
By the way, Ian, that video was pretty cool til they did the guitar bit; did not care for that at all.  Still, it was a cool vid.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-03-01, 21:30:23
I've been playing guitar for about 15 years, so I dug that part too :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-03-02, 15:37:19
I love a good riff pretty as much as anyone else...my expectation wasn't for that tho so I was disappointed; still...thought it was a cool vid overall.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-03-02, 19:21:47
I love a good riff pretty as much as anyone else...my expectation wasn't for that tho so I was disappointed; still...thought it was a cool vid overall.

It looked cool but once i saw the guitar i was like....what..the...hell....? Wasnt expecting it, they couldve gone for a more serious thing and it wouldve been great lol, just wasnt expecting that
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-03-17, 19:19:40
Skyrim : 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMD28MMtNg#ws)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-03-18, 01:44:05


lol :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2012-03-18, 04:58:15
That's hilarious!  ;D
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-03-18, 13:40:03
Make sure you check out part 2 by the same guys.  It continues where that one leaves off and is equally funny.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-03-18, 17:29:43
Ha, awesome. Never played skyrim, but most RPGs are similar so I even got the jokes in that. I sent it to my brother too.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-03-20, 21:19:12
Oh that was good!  My pickpocket skill is woefully inadequate, got caught both attempts so I figured- why sneak and steal when you can kill and acquire instead?  I'm much better at that.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2012-03-25, 13:22:50
Now you're thinking    ;)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-03-27, 15:17:19
I can't even get away with it when they're sleep!  lol
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Leganoth on 2012-03-29, 22:15:18
its a funny series, they should continue it
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-09-09, 10:40:18
Playing this game now. So far, so good. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-09-10, 15:20:51
Lord Dane, what'd you choose to be?  Where are you at now?  Its a great game...if you have it for X360 then even better because you have access to the exclusive DLC that PS3 does not- had I known that in the beginning I would've opted for the 360 version.  I sunk 280 hours into the original game, so I'm not going to do it all over again for the 360, despite really, really loving the game.  It was just so MUCH.  lol
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-09-10, 18:01:31
Lord Dane, what'd you choose to be?  Where are you at now?  Its a great game...if you have it for X360 then even better because you have access to the exclusive DLC that PS3 does not- had I known that in the beginning I would've opted for the 360 version.  I sunk 280 hours into the original game, so I'm not going to do it all over again for the 360, despite really, really loving the game.  It was just so MUCH.  lol

Chose male Red Guard to start but playing PC platform. I have no other game system. Still just getting through the initial keep into the next stage.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-09-11, 15:29:23
Oh man...in that case you've got all the goodies; they've got some content that'll allow you to update the armor models to look more historical...I believe Ian did this.  Might've been Sir Edward.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2012-09-12, 11:25:37
I've got some too. PC blows everything else out of the water thanks to mods.  :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Ian on 2012-09-12, 13:44:19
Oh man...in that case you've got all the goodies; they've got some content that'll allow you to update the armor models to look more historical...I believe Ian did this.  Might've been Sir Edward.

Yes, go to page 1 of this thread and you will see some of the awesome 15th century armor designs I found for Skyrim.

Lord Dane, don't sound apologetic for playing on PC, that's the ONLY gaming platform as far as I'm concerned! :)  My Xbox has been relegated to a Netflix machine.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-09-15, 07:52:07
Oh man...in that case you've got all the goodies; they've got some content that'll allow you to update the armor models to look more historical...I believe Ian did this.  Might've been Sir Edward.

Yes, go to page 1 of this thread and you will see some of the awesome 15th century armor designs I found for Skyrim.

Lord Dane, don't sound apologetic for playing on PC, that's the ONLY gaming platform as far as I'm concerned! :)  My Xbox has been relegated to a Netflix machine.

No apologies here. I love PC gaming. :) Just hate the controls on some games I love preventing me from playing them bc gameplay is difficult.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-09-21, 20:30:08
There's a reason for that of course...games were meant to be on the console- computers are for WORK.

There, that should get some ordinance flying about, no?  lol
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-09-21, 22:30:21
games were meant to be on the console- computers are for WORK.

Heresy. :)
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-09-21, 22:40:14
There's a reason for that of course...games were meant to be on the console- computers are for WORK.

There, that should get some ordinance flying about, no?  lol

Not all of us misuse work computers for private game time, Sir William. :) I have only ever been a PC Gamer.
Title: Re: Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Post by: Sir William on 2012-09-25, 16:55:41
Lord Dane's at it again- sniping others!

Sir Edward...I knew it.  I did.  ;)