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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Justin on 2015-06-30, 18:45:47
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So, just for fun, if you could fight using any type of medieval weapon, what would it be and why? Would you use a straight-sword and shield for the speed and versatility? Would you use a great sword for the power? A mace for the brutality? A halberd for the reach? I personally would go for a two-handed great sword, just so that the opponent would think twice about trying to block my attack.
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Id use either a Messer for the fear factor and the fact that you can nearly slice a man in half with it. That thing is heavy with enough momentum and a sharp blade they are finished (not so good against armor but still)
If not a messer Id use the hammer of lucerine because with that I could slam through someones helm into their skull or use the pick side to do the same to un armored people
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Ooh, a hammer! Nice. I hadn't thought of that. That would be intimidating to see flying at you. One solid hit and you're probably done.
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On horse or ground give me a good hefty sabre. Stout enough to remove a limb and not so curved that it has an ineffective thrust.
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A saber? Hmm, nice speed, one solid swing and off goes a limb. I could see that. I like it.
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For rebated or rattan combat I prefer the poleaxe. The reach is nice and you can slash, smash, poke & hook. Often overlooked is the ability for a close-quarters strike with the butt-spike.
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Wow! That sounds like quite the versatile weapon. It's always good to have multiple methods of attack with your weapon.
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A trebuchet so I can hurl big rocks at things. ;D
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Haha! That would probably be the most entertaining. I have always wanted to see one of those in action.
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I do love a good sword, but for myself- a hammer with a wicked back spike and a shield. No matter which way the head's turned, you can deliver a crushing blow and being able to cherry pick heads with that pointed back spike all from the cover of a shield is a winner for me.
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An iron defense, with an unstoppable offense. A combination to be feared indeed.
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If I was ranged however. I would want a longbow/war bow why? Because English archers where feared because of their deadly accuracy and ability to take down ranks of lightly armored footmen from afar.
You had to be so strong just to fire one that they can Identify archers bodies by their enlarged shooting arm.
Now that's a weapon you don't want to see haha
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Poleaxe, without a doubt :)
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If I was ranged however. I would want a longbow/war bow why? Because English archers where feared because of their deadly accuracy and ability to take down ranks of lightly armored footmen from afar.
You had to be so strong just to fire one that they can Identify archers bodies by their enlarged shooting arm.
Now that's a weapon you don't want to see haha
That sounds brutal. Still, you can't really argue that dispatching your opponent before they even have a chance to get near you is a good way to go about things.
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Dual wielding Trebuchets ;D
Hmmm... I can't decide.
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Haha! While I don't think you can technically dual wield trebuchets, you are more than capable of having two trebuchets.
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If I was ranged however. I would want a longbow/war bow why? Because English archers where feared because of their deadly accuracy and ability to take down ranks of lightly armored footmen from afar.
You had to be so strong just to fire one that they can Identify archers bodies by their enlarged shooting arm.
Now that's a weapon you don't want to see haha
Close, but spine and shoulders, not arms.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9686177/Mary-Rose-scientists-identify-shipwrecks-elite-archers-by-RSI.html
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Aside from the obvious question "What am I facing? What am I wearing?" before deciding. Still... I'd take a Poleaxe cause it brings da boom!
Id use either a Messer for the fear factor and the fact that you can nearly slice a man in half with it. That thing is heavy with enough momentum and a sharp blade they are finished (not so good against armor but still)
Messer isn't that big. It's a late period one-handed peasants tool designed to get around sword laws. Thus why one need not worry about armor so much.
Good weapon and the stuff on it's use is fantastic, but not what you're thinking of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sVdx7nzhQ&index=12&list=PLHQQibu-Ww5hmEr7YIzXXASx3ehE1MSca
(Note: Langes Messer means "Long Knife" and so some Messers are rather a bit shorter than this)
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Sorry I meant a two handed messer but then if its one handed what am I thinking of, I have seen two handed things that people have called messers.
They usually look like this when I see them
Any input on what these might be would be much appreciated
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Well there are messers and then there are falchions.
Falchions have a hilt assembled like a sword. Messers have a hilt like your common kitchen or really many knives. since the Hilt was not a sword hilt, it passed as a big knife.
The knecht is a messer. Here is a review on it by skallagrim
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1bVacVSyM
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Honestly I have to say that I like the feel and the sheer savagery of a mace.
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I agree with Sir James, Sir Rodney & Thorsteinn, a Pole Axe would be ideal, though I'd prefer a short-shafted poleaxe (4-5ft) for more control and stability.
Or my personal favorite, though probably wouldn't fare well against an armored knight... a Danish Longsword, I really like the curved hand guards ... both amazing weapons.
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Yes, the "grossmesser" or "kriegsmesser" is probably what you're thinking of. They're pretty intimidating.
Oh yes, the poleaxe is a great choice. I'd have to work with it a lot more first, before it would become my go-to weapon. For now, I would have to stick with the longsword, or the sword & buckler, since I actually somewhat know what I'm doing with those. :)
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Well, well. Who would have thought that the pole axe would be winning the day?
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Well, well. Who would have thought that the pole axe would be winning the day?
It brings da BOOM! Look at this vid here where they're using a "blunted" poleaxe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9eHuVYwWY8&list=PLHQQibu-Ww5hmEr7YIzXXASx3ehE1MSca&index=34
Also the pic from the Lauren Tourney where the guy got stabbed in the jimmy with one.
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Wow! That looks awesome! I would love to try something like that one day.
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Yes I was thinking of the Kreigmesser. Thanks for that I couldn't figure it out haha
Yea those would be terrifying to see on the battlefeild
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Well, well. Who would have thought that the pole axe would be winning the day?
Most versatile and functional weapon there is. Seems a logical choice in melee combat. Any weapon that allows you advantage in reach at distance, hooking, trapping, slashing, cutting, thrusting, and smashing ... is the true winner in weapons.
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Well, well. Who would have thought that the pole axe would be winning the day?
Most versatile and functional weapon there is. Seems a logical choice in melee combat. Any weapon that allows you advantage in reach at distance, hooking, trapping, slashing, cutting, thrusting, and smashing ... is the true winner in weapons.
Not only that, but with a pole axe it won't really matter what armor your opponent is wearing. Anything less that full plate armor is going to be all the more easy.
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I had no idea that the pole axe was such a formidable tool of destruction. I have learned much in this discussion.
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Poleaxe to the Jimmy!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/EUmV1.jpg)
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As pictorially demonstrated by Thorsteinn, there you have it. :)
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Ouch
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Good gracious! That poor guy saw God at that moment.
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At the very least his whole sex life passed before his eyes! :P
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At the very least his whole sex life passed before his eyes! :P
Now how do you know he has a sex life, Sir Brian?? lol Be more accurate to say his nads passed into the next world in an honorable fashion. ;D
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Poleaxe to the Jimmy!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/EUmV1.jpg)
Laurin Tournament, utterly fantastic event
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Laurin Tournament, utterly fantastic event
For everyone except the dude to the right! :o
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Quite. That man regrets every decision he ever made leading up to this.
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I'd prefer a ballista, for backstabbing people.
But for real, the pole axe is my favorite weapon also. I saw a Mike Loades video of it once that illustrated it's use pretty well.
This whole video is good but the poleaxe part begins about 39:00
http://youtu.be/98hRtOJqOYE
Scott
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A real vesion of this... The Smasher.
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Haha. Seems appropriate.
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Lately, I've actually been falling more and more in love with the pollhammer, not the axe, not the lucerne or bec De corbin, but the pollhammer. Meat tenderiser on a stick, backed by an axe-head and with a long pointy bit at the very end.
Seriously.
Smack.
Do you need anything else?
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What you describe fits the description of many polaxes.
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They are all pretty much the same in the end. But what I identify as a hammer rather than an axe is that the meaty bit is the primary weapon and the axe head is shrunk down, whereas the axes have very telling axe heads, often with curved beards, whilst the hammer is kinda small and sure, it works.... But the axe is the real business end on those, much like the hammer is the business end on my weapon of choice.
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I have to agree on that note. I do prefer to smash than cut. Hammer it is!!! :)
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for coolness, sword and board. for effectiveness, a halberd, halberds are crazy versatile with insane reach.
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Actually, the word "poleaxe" meant something a bit different to our historical ancestors than our modern connotation of it. "Axe" could simply mean something hafted with a head. Many poleaxes didn't have axe blades at all, but rather hammer and spike combinations. They varied a great deal.
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For me, it would be a longsword, followed by a sword and buckler in a close second.
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I would go with a straight sword or a bow
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It depends on the time period, environment, and enemy I'm fighting. Of course conventional sword and board is the iconic and pretty imagery that I immediately think of...For sheer effectiveness I'd roll with a polearm of some type. I'm not a very large and powerful guy thus trying to smash through an enemy line with sword and board would promptly get me splattered by bigger folk. I'd rather harry enemies at the end of a pike, spear, or halberd. If I absolutely had to choose a one handed weapon from the periods of 12-1500 I'd use a flanged mace. I've always had a love for them.
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Either the falchion (is it an ax or a sword - oh its both)...
Or a war hammer (depending on time period) as it is quite effective against an opponent with a shield.
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Actually, the word "poleaxe" meant something a bit different to our historical ancestors than our modern connotation of it. "Axe" could simply mean something hafted with a head. Many poleaxes didn't have axe blades at all, but rather hammer and spike combinations. They varied a great deal.
Why don't we just call them Pole Hammers?
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Actually, the word "poleaxe" meant something a bit different to our historical ancestors than our modern connotation of it. "Axe" could simply mean something hafted with a head. Many poleaxes didn't have axe blades at all, but rather hammer and spike combinations. They varied a great deal.
Why don't we just call them Pole Hammers?
For that matter, why don't we call pages "Knight Bitches"? 8)
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Actually, the word "poleaxe" meant something a bit different to our historical ancestors than our modern connotation of it. "Axe" could simply mean something hafted with a head. Many poleaxes didn't have axe blades at all, but rather hammer and spike combinations. They varied a great deal.
Why don't we just call them Pole Hammers?
For that matter, why don't we call pages "Knight Bitches"? 8)
Too easy to confuse with Witches, which would result in a lot of angry villagers, and a shortage of pages. :D
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I personally would go with a longsword. Probably the most versatile weapon out there, as well as the most renowned. From my experience in HEMA, its one of the fastest weapons as well. A pollaxe would be my second choice for similar reasons.
Sword and shield is slow, and axes are for peasants :P
And hammers? There's just no class in that.
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Sword and shield is slow, and axes are for peasants :P
And hammers? There's just no class in that.
So is that a challenge? ;)
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If hammers have no class... and axes are for peasants.... then English Knights are well explained in their love of the hammer backed poleaxe. ;D ;D ;D
(http://arms-n-armor.com/images/pole010b.jpg) (http://arms-n-armor.com/pole010.html)
Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all night! :D
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I do love the hammer backed pole axe . So versatile.
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Well you see when you put all those weapons together, you actually have something decent ;)
And everyone knows the most deadly bit of the pollaxe is the que at the end.
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If you have a que at the end then you're not using it fast enough. :D
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That would be a queue, Thor.
But as it turns out, the technical term for "that pointy bit at the end" is "cue", because you're supposed to use it to play billiards.
And thus today we have proven that language is in fact the greatest weapon of all ;D
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The pen truly is mightier than the sword, but don't try to block a sword with a pen ;)
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If hammers have no class... and axes are for peasants.... then English Knights are well explained in their love of the hammer backed poleaxe. ;D ;D ;D
(http://arms-n-armor.com/images/pole010b.jpg) (http://arms-n-armor.com/pole010.html)
Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all night! :D
Oh, no you didn't?? Insulting my persona, heritage, and favorite weapon all in one line. Unforgivable.
A match is pending Thorsteinn assuming you are still within close proximity to the confinds of East Kingdom. :) Honor demands this!!!