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Main => The Round Table => Topic started by: Mike W. on 2014-03-10, 17:56:52
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I made a 3 decade Pater Noster over the weekend and gave it a test run. Turns out, it takes about 45 minutes to recite all 150 (that is when you're not tripping yourself up over the Latin). All in all, I'm very pleased with how it turned out.
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Thats awesome! It looks great!
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That turned out quite nicely. It's an often overlooked accessory.
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What's a Pater Noster?
(I was raised Jewish)
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Back in the day, monks read all 150 Psalms each and every day and that practice began to extend to the general public. As most people couldn't read, they substituted the 150 psalms with 150 recitations of the Lord's Prayer, otherwise known as the Our Father (Pater Noster is "Our Father" in Latin). The string of beads, named after the prayer which is recited on it, helped the person keep track of how many they had prayed.
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And if I understand correctly, that eventually evolved into the modern day Rosary, correct? They added in an Ave Maria after every decade or something like that.
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And if I understand correctly, that eventually evolved into the modern day Rosary, correct? They added in an Ave Maria after every decade or something like that.
Yes the Pater Noster did evolve in to the modern Rosary. I think you see more recognizable Rosaries in the Mary Rose finds... but don't quote me on that.
There's a lot more prayers than just Hail Marys and Our Fathers on a modern Rosary. People kind of do what they want with them, but the 'proper' praying of the rosary is kind of complex.
http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/devotionals/rosaries/how-to-pray-the-rosary.cfm (http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/devotionals/rosaries/how-to-pray-the-rosary.cfm)
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I still have enough left-over materials to make two more. If anyone wants one, send me a PM with your address and I'll send you one (free). The first two to PM me will get them.
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very cool man. very cool
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What time periods would these be applicable for?
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What time periods would these be applicable for?
A simple pater noster is appropriate for virtually the entirety of the Middle Ages. A rosary is not.
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Made 3 single-decade "tenners" tonight for myself and the little squires. The cross on the red-tasseled one was brought back from the Vatican by my late grandmother and has been blessed by then Pope (and now Saint) John Paul II.
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Made 3 single-decade "tenners" tonight for myself and the little squires. The cross on the red-tasseled one was brought back from the Vatican by my late grandmother and has been blessed by then Pope (and now Saint) John Paul II.
That, my friend, is VERY cool.
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…and I’m not even Catholic!
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Made 3 single-decade "tenners" tonight for myself and the little squires. The cross on the red-tasseled one was brought back from the Vatican by my late grandmother and has been blessed by then Pope (and now Saint) John Paul II.
That's pretty awesome.
Wait, they sainted him? What rock have I been living under? :) It shows just how good of a Catholic I've been. :)
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That's an incredible honor in the Catholic faith.
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Made 3 single-decade "tenners" tonight for myself and the little squires. The cross on the red-tasseled one was brought back from the Vatican by my late grandmother and has been blessed by then Pope (and now Saint) John Paul II.
Wow.
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I hadn't realized he was canonized. I have a rosary from the Vatican when I was there in the late 90's but I don't think it was blessed by the then Pope. Those are very awesome, and what a great addition to garb. It is that kind of thing that makes it a little more "real".
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I hadn't realized he was canonized. I have a rosary from the Vatican when I was there in the late 90's but I don't think it was blessed by the then Pope. Those are very awesome, and what a great addition to garb. It is that kind of thing that makes it a little more "real".
It's possible, a lot (if not all) of the rosaries sold in the Vatican shop were blessed by the Pope. That's where I got the one I gifted to my mother. I was there in early 2000.
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It is definitely possible, it is carved rosewood and smells lovely even after all of this time. I actually have 2 from there, one is the cheaper black plastic beads with a nice crucifix at the bottom but the really nice one has the seal of the Vatican on the front of the little pouch and as I said is all carved rosewood. I don't use it anymore but I still keep it.
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I wish I were a holy man. I really do. The thing is that I don't believe in the lord. That's the only thing holding me back from being religious, for I would feel guilty raying but not believing. I think religion is an awesome thing that more should practice. I envy each of you who follow this path. Maybe it'd be cool to have one of these anyway though.
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Each is on a personal path, whether that path leads to a standard religion or a personal belief, or even a belief in the invisible pink unicorn, each has something that drives them, guides them, and helps them achieve more than they thought possible. You can use one of these to pray, to count the change you own the vendor, or to name all the elements on the periodic table. All it is, is a way to keep count. Make it what it is for you. :)
As for being a holy man, that simply means you know more about your personal faith system than anyone else and are legally recognized for it. There is nothing keeping you from doing so if you so wish, depending on where you are of course.
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I wish I were a holy man. I really do. The thing is that I don't believe in the lord. That's the only thing holding me back from being religious, for I would feel guilty raying but not believing. I think religion is an awesome thing that more should practice. I envy each of you who follow this path. Maybe it'd be cool to have one of these anyway though.
Everyone follows a different path, and that's OK. It's better to know where your beliefs (or lack thereof) are, and be honest about it, than to just pay lip service to something that doesn't work for you.
Personally, I'm not highly religious either. I was raised Catholic, but I haven't been "practicing" since I was a teen. It's something that remains in the back of my mind, rather than the forefront.
We all walk different paths, that will lead us down different roads.