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Title: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2013-02-27, 02:26:28
I just realized that fighting right handed while being left eye dominant I may have been having some issues all along as a shieldman and even with a two handed weapon. I know that not knowing I was left eye dominant made shooting a pistol hard for years till I found out the truth.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-02-27, 17:50:36
I just realized that fighting right handed while being left eye dominant I may have been having some issues all along as a shieldman and even with a two handed weapon. I know that not knowing I was left eye dominant made shooting a pistol hard for years till I found out the truth.

Thoughts?

Understandable issue w/ shooting & line of sight to target involving eye dominance. However, seeing you would or should have both eye open in sword play, I fail to see the relevance. My eyes are both focused on my opponent not just one.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-02-27, 20:14:53
Understandable issue w/ shooting & line of sight to target involving eye dominance. However, seeing you would or should have both eye open in sword play, I fail to see the relevance. My eyes are both focused on my opponent not just one.

I was going to say something similar. It can present real problems in shooting since you can only get line of sight on the gun's sights with one eye at a time. But when fighting, both eyes are seeing the same thing with only a minor perspective difference, so I don't think it matters. Unless you tend to wear an eye-patch over your dominant eye or something. :)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-02-27, 20:17:33
Even then, he'd still be able to see and land shots on his opponent.  Thorsteinn, have you noticed anything untoward in your fighting skills to date?
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-02, 03:12:53
I just discovered that I actually have one eye that's rather nearsighted (left, the dominant one) and the other is farsighted. If that would affect swordsmanship, I think I would have noticed, since my favorite moves involve control of distance.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-02, 13:19:09
I just discovered that I actually have one eye that's rather nearsighted (left, the dominant one) and the other is farsighted. If that would affect swordsmanship, I think I would have noticed, since my favorite moves involve control of distance.

That would result in "eye defect" not dominance, Sir Nathan. I opt you go for LASIK to correct that over-sight (yes, pun intended). As it may benefit you in the long-run and greatly aid you better in the coming slaughter against my hammer.  ;D
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-02, 14:16:25
I know, but I think it's a valid point for the OP idea that having a different dominant eye and hand (which I have, and my defect would only increase any effect) causes problems with fighting.
I think you and your hammer will find that I still can control a measure very well.....  :)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-02, 14:22:03
I know, but I think it's a valid point for the OP idea that having a different dominant eye and hand (which I have, and my defect would only increase any effect) causes problems with fighting.
I think you and your hammer will find that I still can control a measure very well.....  :)

You young knights tend to lack that self-control in any measure. :P But I suppose, it can be tempered with the right amount of discipline & humiliation.  ;D At least we will not need to work on your boasting skills of embellishment. LOL They are progressing nicely.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-03, 06:14:51
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-03-03, 10:22:58
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)

Speaking from personal experience that is very true Sir Nathan, I am also confident you have attained the suitable level of power! ;)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-03, 17:23:40
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)

Speaking from personal experience that is very true Sir Nathan, I am also confident you have attained the suitable level of power! ;)

Well in that case, I'll be certain to wear my gauntlets Sir Thumb-Splitter. And hopefully avoid becoming Sir Butter-Fingers myself. :)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-04, 05:03:01
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)

Speaking from personal experience that is very true Sir Nathan, I am also confident you have attained the suitable level of power! ;)

Thank you Sir Brian, and I hope my power level stays right at "suitable"  :D
Lord Dane, yes,gauntlets are a must when bouting me. Without them, any "Sir Butter-Fingers" will be entitled quickly as "Sir Butter-Nubs"  8)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2013-03-04, 05:32:27
Gauntlets are your friend. I have the video to prove it.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-03-04, 19:47:25
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)

I was going to say I can personally attest to it, but a better knight than I has already done so.  Well said, Sir Brian!
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-04, 20:33:49
This young knight is not to be found wanting for any control in his measure, thank you very much.  :)

I was going to say I can personally attest to it, but a better knight than I has already done so.  Well said, Sir Brian!

Of course Sir Nathan is of such standard. :) But if none test his resolve, then there would be no fun in it!!! :P On a side note: Hmmmmm.. Butter-Nubs??  ::) I see peanut butter brittle in caramel and a chocolate covered shell. Sir Nathan might have the new candy idea of the century.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-05, 04:30:23
Thank you for your testimonies, good Sirs.  :)
And do not think that I see not through your ploy, Lord Dane, a wily opponent as you are, seeking to exploit my diabetes to your advantage with newfangled candy weapons!  ;) 


Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-03-05, 18:07:26
seeking to exploit my diabetes to your advantage with newfangled candy weapons!  ;)

lol!
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-03-05, 18:53:42
An excellent riposte, Sir Nathan.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-05, 23:30:39
An excellent riposte, Sir Nathan.

Yum!! Yum!! Butter-Nubs. Come on Sir Nathan. You know you want some. Cave into temptation.  :P Mmmmmm so tasty.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2013-03-07, 20:31:47
*uses insulin potion. Gains immunity to candy for the period of active effect.*
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir James A on 2013-03-07, 21:27:09
newfangled candy weapons!  ;)

Okay, now that it's in my head ... we had candy necklaces as a kid. We have 3 foot long gummy worms. And 10 pound gummy bears.

Somebody step up and make candy weapons!

Re: Eye dominance and fighting - I think the rifle one makes sense, since you close one eye when sighting to shoot. I think. I do that with a bow, so I guess a rifle is the same. For martial arts, I'd say it's a lot less likely to affect so greatly, unless it messes with depth perception.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-03-08, 04:53:57
i fight with my eyes closed and screaming like a lil girl
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2013-03-08, 16:48:51
This entire subject got me thinking and I will say this. 

Eye dominance is subjective to one thing only.  How you can focus sight and attention to a single point.  Whether it be right eye or left eye, it boils down to the level of concentration and attention.  At times when I bout, I focus straight forward in spite of the fact my right eye is stronger than my left eye.  This has come from my training where I would make my sword cuts against a reflection of myself (in front of the TV, turned off) and I would slowly let my eyes and mind process the cut or thrust or technique I would perform. Slowly progressing with more speed as to allow the muscle memory and visual memory work together.  I suggest Thoresteinn that you give it a try and let me know. 
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2013-03-08, 20:27:11
I forgot to say I'm astigmatic and have eye convergence issues.

They are both mild enough I can filter them out with my glasses correcting for one or the other, but when I fight I'm not wearing glasses. The pic below hopefully shows what I see like without my glasses. This may have been caused by head trauma some 25 years back.

 
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-08, 20:42:21
I forgot to say I'm astigmatic and have eye convergence issues.

They are both mild enough I can filter them out with my glasses correcting for one or the other, but when I fight I'm not wearing glasses. The pic below hopefully shows what I see like without my glasses. This may have been caused by head trauma some 25 years back.

Have you consulted an eye doctor about correcting your acuity via any procedure??
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-03-08, 20:54:25
Astigmatism shouldn't matter either, since that's a focal-depth issue that tends to get buried in the overall blurriness in your vision. (for those wondering-- it's a cylindrical distortion in the lens that means that the vertical blur and horizontal blur are different, because the eye now has two focal depths, and both of them (usually) are wrong. That's a simplistic way to put it, as in actuality the distortion axis may not be strictly horizontal or vertical).

A convergence issue could affect depth perception, though... so that might be a different matter. How severe is it?

Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-03-08, 21:15:52
Astigmatism shouldn't matter either, since that's a focal-depth issue that tends to get buried in the overall blurriness in your vision. (for those wondering-- it's a cylindrical distortion in the lens that means that the vertical blur and horizontal blur are different, because the eye now has two focal depths, and both of them (usually) are wrong. That's a simplistic way to put it, as in actuality the distortion axis may not be strictly horizontal or vertical).

A convergence issue could affect depth perception, though... so that might be a different matter. How severe is it?

Yeah, what he said. LOL   ::)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-03-08, 22:38:25
I forgot to say I'm astigmatic and have eye convergence issues.

They are both mild enough I can filter them out with my glasses correcting for one or the other, but when I fight I'm not wearing glasses. The pic below hopefully shows what I see like without my glasses. This may have been caused by head trauma some 25 years back.

 

Go for the middle; better chance at hitting "both" of them.  Or go all Doc Holliday and pull out two swords...one for each of'm.  ;)
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2013-03-12, 15:29:14
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Astigmatism shouldn't matter either, since that's a focal-depth issue that tends to get buried in the overall blurriness in your vision. (for those wondering-- it's a cylindrical distortion in the lens that means that the vertical blur and horizontal blur are different, because the eye now has two focal depths, and both of them (usually) are wrong. That's a simplistic way to put it, as in actuality the distortion axis may not be strictly horizontal or vertical).

Agreed. 

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Go for the middle; better chance at hitting "both" of them.  Or go all Doc Holliday and pull out two swords...one for each of'm.  ;)

In that case, draw both swords out and say: "I will have to kill both of you."
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Lord Tristin on 2013-04-10, 22:16:22
Sir Nathan, I agree wholeheartedly. De-fanging the snake is the most practical measure in fighting an opponent with a large heavy hitting weapon. strikes to the wrist or hand cause your opponent to drop their weapon, and you really don't need to hit very hard to do it.

As far as eyes are concerned, watching your opponents hips is ideal, they have to move them to attack or defend. Again you shouldn't focus on any particular part of their body all the time.  I speak from my personal experiance though and  Iam sure some of the Knights here have more combat experience than I.
Title: Re: Eye dominance and fighting.
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2013-04-10, 23:32:49
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Go for the middle; better chance at hitting "both" of them.  Or go all Doc Holliday and pull out two swords...one for each of'm.  ;)

In that case, draw both swords out and say: "I will have to kill both of you."

Watch the most recent episode of Arrow, the one from last week.

BTW when the swords get within a half foot of my head I see two of them. Fun fun. I fight Florentine via intuition a lot.