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Main => The Campaign => Topic started by: SirNathanQ on 2012-02-16, 21:21:00
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Has anyone seen this? It's called Days of Knights, and it's a multi-period medieval reenactment. It's the Oct 12-14th weekend, and it's looking superb.
http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/ (http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/)
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That looks really cool. It's refreshing to see an event stressing the historical accuracy side of things.
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I would love to go to this except it's on my anniversary weekend and the second to last weekend of MDRF! = CONFLICTION! :(
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I really want to go, the only thing with me is the transportation. :-\
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too farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Yea, same here...budget's kind of tight so I wouldn't be able to fly...anyone ever drove to KY before?
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A couple of years ago I went to the Kentucky RenFaire which is close to where this event is at. It is approximately a ten hour drive but really beautiful scenery. :)
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I've never been to KY before. Though I hear the renfaire over there isn't too bad, so I may have to check it out eventually. But yeah, we'll be in the middle of faire season here, and Halloween, and my anniversary is shortly before it, etc. Very busy time of the year.
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I'm hoping to go next year as I really enjoyed that fair, even though it was a little on the small side, about half again as big as VARF, they have an impressive amount of permanent buildings including a really great beer hall and the local rennies are really friendly. They are very supportive of their fair and they based the faire around the timeline and court of Robert the Bruce so it is perfect for earlier kits! :)
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Just keep in mind that next year (2013) will be another WMAW year. :)
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They are usually in July/August aren't they?
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Man, that looks fantastic, but as was said, tooo far away. :( I'm surprised they can do that with no entrance fee either.
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I'd love to go check this out, but alas, I will be tied up at PaRF. It'd be really cool to see some other guys doing Hand Gonner impressions, I thought I was the only one left working on that.
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I'm a little confused by the website. Are they discouraging playtrons from armouring up for the day?
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They are usually in July/August aren't they?
WMAW is usually mid-late September.
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I'm a little confused by the website. Are they discouraging playtrons from armouring up for the day?
That's the impression I got, since it seems like we'd be confused with the actual living history "cast".
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What do you mean, we can't wear armor? What would be the point, then? :)
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I think they're trying to make the point that you can't be a "participant" unless you sign up first, and conform to the historical standards. I don't think they'd kick you out. Unless I'm not looking at the same part of the website that you guys are. :)
In terms of participant standards, it's very strict living-history, for sure.
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Well I have been part of the setup for the group for a while, and it's not as draconian as straight-up living history. They'd probably accept all of your kits. The only big thing is aluminum maille. That's the largest pet peeve of the group. I've gotten the acceptance of the group for my kit, so you guys will definatly make the cut. Some of us migh have to modify our dates a bit, but we should be fine. Hardest part for me will be the encampment part of things. Soft kit and all the fine details.
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Well I have been part of the setup for the group for a while, and it's not as draconian as straight-up living history. They'd probably accept all of your kits. The only big thing is aluminum maille. That's the largest pet peeve of the group. I've gotten the acceptance of the group for my kit, so you guys will definatly make the cut. Some of us migh have to modify our dates a bit, but we should be fine. Hardest part for me will be the encampment part of things. Soft kit and all the fine details.
The devils in the details. If you are doing this Nathan, I can tell you from experience that these events are really fun. The people doing them are ussually very freindly and willing to share camp gear and space with newcomers that aren't that outfitted yet. I know I just picked up a tent this past fall, but before I had open offer to sleep in one of the wall tents or borrow a wedge if we did an encampment event. This surely looks like fun, I am so very tempted to skip a weekend of PaRF to come check it out.
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I'm putting together a 13th century Templar kit together for this, and I've already arranged to be bunking with the other Templars in attendance (a few other guys from the Military Orders group I'm in)
Basically what I need is a Templar Surcoat and Cappa Clausa, plus a Mantle. Then I need to finish my shields, get a helm, and a possibly try to work up a Coat of Plates and Polyens and Coutars. Also some undershirts, braies and chausses, and some finishing details, like a Paternoster and such.
I have a chest which I need to repaint, and maybe I need to get some medieval camp furniture.
And of course transportation. That'll be the most difficult :P
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418 mi - about 7 hours 24 mins one way. hmmm prius gets 48 say miles to the gallon. still thats what, $72 bucks in gas. ug. it would get even less when packed full of gear.
it really sounds fun. i wonder how many knights/ camps they get.
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Yeah, I'm still keeping this in mind as a possibility. But I have so many other things going on this year, and I'm really lacking on the encampment accessories. On the other hand, this is an off-year for WMAW which normally runs around that same time of year, and also I do have the panther pavilion.
My kits would need a little work to be more authentic, depending on what I do. If I were to aim for 15th C, I've got my plate armor, but not much else to wear when I'm not kitted up. Otherwise I'd consider doing a late 13th C Teutonic knight, for which I'd need a new surcoat, and consider a long-sleeved hauberk as well.
Hey, do you know if there's any period art showing Teutonic knights of the day using kettle helms? I do have one.
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I have a Teutonic surcoat you can borrow Sir Edward. :)
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That's certainly an option! I was thinking more along the lines of the straight-lined crosses in the Osprey books. But GDFB also has a linen Cross-Pattee version (via KoA):
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=GB3946&name=Teutonic+Surcoat+-+Linen (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=GB3946&name=Teutonic+Surcoat+-+Linen)
So I have multiple options in addition to making one.
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ya for 15thc you need A LOT. and clothing is a pain to make
13th clothes are easier to get. shoes too.
camp stuff can be bought or made easily enough. if we want to discuss this in another pst, lets split the topic and discuss seperately so it doesnt get lost.
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I have a Teutonic surcoat you can borrow Sir Edward. :)
I remember that surcoat...you were wearing it when I first made your acquaintance, and Sir Edward's too- although he was quite fashionable in his attire. :)
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Well, the shop I was gonna get the helm and other metal bits for the Templar kinght kit closed their armoury, so I'm probably going Teutonic Knight then.
Teutonic Knight will be ideal for this, as they are doing a modified version of Battle of the Nations combat and Teutoic Knight kits can run anything from full maille to full plate. I would prefer to take the field wearing plate during one of those battles!
Sir Ed, could I bum a ride with you if you're going? I pack light :)
Sir Ed, you could do a mid 14th century Teutonic Knight and have plate bracers under your 3/4 sleeve hauberk.
You can basicaally get away with anything in mid-14th century Germany.
Check ths out. http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armour/effigy/German-Effigies.htm (http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armour/effigy/German-Effigies.htm)
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Sir Nathan do you wish to borrow my great bascinet for this event? All I would have to do is remove my additional yellow & green leather dressing on the strap that adjoins the aventail to the helm. ???
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I'll have to get back to you, since I don't know whether I'll be able to go or not yet.
Kit-wise, if I can get things together in time, I'll probably do 13th century, but we'll see! :)
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Sir Brian, you have the GDFB version right?
Could you bring it on the 15th so that I can see the fit?
I would probably opt to buy my own, as I would feel better about taking a pollaxe to the head in my own helm than someone else's. Also I might paint it.
(but then again, if my 17 year-old budget rears it's ugly head to horribly, I might have to take you up on that. I'll see how everything pans out)
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Right I'll add it to the packing list...although my wife may think I'm going on campaign! ;)
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man i really wantta goto this. i gotta save. hmm carpool? how many can fit into a prius with gear? heheheh
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Hey, if we got a big enough car we could carpool and save on all that gas! ;)
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Well, I'd still need to take my truck since I'd have a panther pavilion and furniture to haul. I don't know if you've seen how I pack for Pennsic:
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2006/pennsic/a668.jpg)
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2008/pennsic/a2265.jpg)
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You could all chip in for a U-Haul rental. :-\
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I so want to do something like this...but no way would my wife do any camping of any kind like that. She's already told me so. lol
But if I were going with The Order...then it'd be ok, I could go!
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Well, if I do manage to go, I'm well on my way toward that whole Teutonic thing. :)
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/weapons/b3169.jpg) (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/weapons/b3169b.jpg)
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ya cause black cotton socks are sooooooooooooo period hahahahahhahahahah jk looks good man!
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Is that the GDFB cloak and surcoat? It looks pretty spiffy.
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Is that the GDFB cloak and surcoat? It looks pretty spiffy.
Yep! Just got here tonight.
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Looking good Sir Ed! Get some armour and you'll look like a true Ritterbrudern!
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I'd like to go to this, would be a big thing for me actually though driving would be an issue as I cant drive myself yet. I'd probably go as a Templar knight as I already have a GDFB templar linen surcoat, just needs resizing though so it can fit me properly.
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Well, if I do manage to go, I'm well on my way toward that whole Teutonic thing. :)
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/weapons/b3169.jpg) (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/weapons/b3169b.jpg)
how is the sizing? is the linen course or smooth? do they give the linen weight? does the surcoat gap around the arm holes or is it a good fit?
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I'll double-check tonight. In terms of the size, the surcoat is a little big by itself, but isn't too far off from the ones I've made. It hangs pretty long too, down to almost my ankles. But then again, taking it in would be a lot easier than trying to expand it! :) The length actually won't be an issue for me. Once it's on over armor, I tend to pull some of it up over the belt anyway.
The surcoat is linen, lined with linen. I don't know what weight fabric it is, but it's a fairly smooth medium weight I think. In the photo it looks very white, but it's not as white as the linen shirt I wore for the shot (which you can only really see at the wrist). It's a mildly natural white, and the cloak is even more so.
The cloak is wool, with a linen lining, and is surprisingly well made for the cost ($70). Kat wrapped herself in it last night, and promptly fell asleep sitting up. Hah!
The belt I'm wearing in the photo is a new one I ordered with my shoes from Viking Leathercrafts. I wanted to have at least one thin belt.
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very cool and looks t be well worth the money.
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Looks good, Sir. Tempting...
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Sir William, do it...... ;)
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hahahaha naaaa go hospitatler!
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Teutonic! Do the Teutonic!
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Teutonic! Do the Teutonic!
I heartily agree. Be a manly man. :)
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a german baby killer :D AH-HAH! got your goat hehehhe
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a german baby killer :D AH-HAH! got your goat hehehhe
If you have the goat, what are we knighting next month? :)
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Teutonic! Do the Teutonic!
Come to the German side. We have Strudel.
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Teutonic! Do the Teutonic!
Come to the German side. We have Strudel.
BAHAAHAHAH ouch my headache hehehe
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Teutonic! Do the Teutonic!
Come to the German side. We have Strudel.
Und Bier! :)
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und Sir Brian in liederhosen!
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und Sir Brian in liederhosen!
Herr Wolf, das ist nicht ein gutes Verkaufsargument! ;)
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SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY men women children of all ages come see Sir Brian this Sunday only in liederhosen!
better selling? hehhe
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Looks good, Sir. Tempting...
Swap a templar tunic for a teutonic tunic, and you're set - no extra armor or accessories to buy.
(say 'templar tunic for teutonic tunic 5 times fast! :D)
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Yeah that's the cool part, you can swap out surcoats and change kits at
will I mean if you have a Teutonic kit, why would you need to swap it for anything else? 8)
(Sorry, the Hochmiester was looking over my shoulder again...)
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I do like struedel, bier and Sir Brian in lederhosen...well, he does have nicer legs than I! lol
Teutonic it is...the Hospitaliers wear too much in the way of overgarments...I might as well go full cloth and forego armor for all that it'd get noticed!
I liked the GDFB one that Sir Edward showed us yesterday...which reminds me of a question I meant to ask- I've read over on AA about how the surcoats should have a fitted look, rather than a straight up and down style garment like a t-tunic and such. Is this true? I don't mind getting them tailored, just wondered if I should.
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Depends on the period. A good general rule of thumb is if it's earlier (before 1350) it's probably relatively loose. If it's after it's more fitted (eventually culminating in the extrmely tight-fitted jupon and fabric glued to the cuirass itslelf)
Though tabards stay loose. They just get shorter.
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so what does your kit need or campsite need in order for anyone to come?
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so what does your kit need or campsite need in order for anyone to come?
I'm not 100% clear. The website makes it sounds fairly like living-history, but it sounds like they just want people to make a decent effort to avoid modern anachronisms. So I think it's flexible.
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I'm not 100% clear. The website makes it sounds fairly like living-history, but it sounds like they just want people to make a decent effort to avoid modern anachronisms. So I think it's flexible.
That is a good thing. :D
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You can get in touch with Brother Metz on FB if you have a question about a specific item. and the impression I got was historic appearance and look. Not strict living history specifications.
I mean, I was expressly told my kits pass muster (and trust me, they are riddled with inaccuracy), so I'm sure the majority of us would happily be accepted.
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You can get in touch with Brother Metz on FB if you have a question about a specific item. and the impression I got was historic appearance and look. Not strict living history specifications.
I mean, I was expressly told my kits pass muster (and trust me, they are riddled with inaccuracy), so I'm sure the majority of us would happily be accepted.
Excellent! When the Kit comes in, I am sure we all will get together with Days of Knights and do incredible, chivalric deeds at their events.
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Event looks great. Unfortunately, it is too far away. I love events that focus on time-honored tradition & historical accuracy. Have to keep my travel focused in New England for the time being.
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I'm trying to get an idea of how many folks are getting serious about attending DoK. Are the folks who are going intending to camp or stay in local lodging and commute to the site each day?
I'm very interested in going. This would be my first living history event, so I'm a total noob and am in all honesty a little intimidated about how things are supposed to be conducted. I have no period camping gear, just my kit (hard/soft and some accessories), but I would really like to go. The other thing is, by October my wife will be just about in her third trimester (we're expecting our first in January which blows my mind! :) ) so camping out would probably not work for her.
I'm really just trying to get a feel for what others are doing as the noob in the group, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. And I should have a shiny new bascinet to show off by then! :)
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I'd be very interested in going but it's rather far away and I dun have a ride there. I was wondering if I could be driven by my folks to a pick up spot and I can go with someone else the rest of the way as a carpooling idea. Do have a bit of stuff I'd have to bring but overall I think I could do it if someone else was willing to carpool with me and I could partially drive the way myself.
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I need a ride as well, though I am pretty determined to go.... Somehow...
Ian, your kit would be awesome down there. You have one of the best ate 14th century impressions I've ever seen, and it would be awesome to have such a high-quality harness at DOK.
For camp accessories, a tent is the most important (though it is pricey, and I would reccomend making arrangements to bunk with someone doing a similar time period if you wish to avoid the initial cost)
Basically you need a well-fleshed out soft kit, a chest or two (they can function as furniture as well as storage) and little period things. Knights probably would have a flag or two w/ their COA, a couple nice things about, ect. Really try to think if you were a knight on campaign, "would I bring this" to each possible item.
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i would like to go, but with work, travel and the kids i'm not sure i can go at this time. if you can't camp i would say get a period looking chair and bring with you at the least, that way you can set it up near a camp and sit with them :)
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I'm also a total noob as far as "living history" goes. I'm a bit intimidated too, since so far I've only aimed for "renfaire accuracy" and not "living history".
But I get the impression, after talking with some of the folks on the facebook group, that they're not aiming to be real strict, but rather want people to make an honest effort to be accurate where they can, and not come in with cheesy costuming and obvious anachronisms.
Sir Nathan and I are discussing the idea of carpooling. But one of the things we'll need to work out is lodging.
I do have a period tent (panther pavilion), but I'm probably still going to get a hotel room and be comfy. I'm asking Nicky about that, since he said he'll make hotel info available to folks.
I figure any of us coming from our group here will be welcome to use my tent as a staging area during the day. We can use it to create a display, and section off an area as a changing room. The side panels are pretty versatile, and I think it'll work to run a rope across the middle and hang up the panels to wall in one half, and have the other half be exposed but sun-shaded. I have yet to try that with the wall panels themselves rather than just hanging a sheet, but I think we can make it work.
By not packing actual camping supplies, I think I'll have enough room in my truck to pack other encampment items, like some chests and other goodies. I'm trying to compare it to going to Pennsic, where I pack the truck to capacity, and usually don't bring armor. Here I'll need to pack armor, but not bedding if I sleep off site.
Things to remember to bring for an event like this will include a wooden chair if you have one, tables if you have them, extra arms and armor to display, racks for them if you can manage it, period lighting (candles, oil lamps), and feast gear (mugs/goblets, utensils, plate, bowl).
I'll want to pack a cooler, and keep it in the "back stage" area of the tent. Modern stuff needs to stay out of view.
Everything I can think of packing is going to take up space in my little truck. I'm going to have to plan smartly.
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I'm still on the fence with it. It's a big expense, and trying to transport something like a tent would take a large vehicle, such as my truck - which gets 10 mpg. Staying at a hotel wouldn't be nearly as immersive, and is less appealing to me (save for the showers part ;)). If someone is going and staying in a hotel that I can bum a shower off of, that would be perfect. I thought it was to become an annual event, but if it is going to be a "one time event", I'll have to push harder to make it happen.
I'm completely lacking in almost all campsite gear, though. I think it will be highly dependent on how much time/money I have for projects the next few months.
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Well, it's not so much that I don't know what I need to camp out, it's more honestly that I have no intention of buying all that stuff before October and driving it from Florida to Kentucky. Also with the wife being preggers, sleeping outside will probably be a no-go. If I do attend I'd more than likely be staying at a hotel in the evenings. If enough of us are planning to stay at a hotel and are serious about going, perhaps we should coordinate our lodging?
I guess I just don't understand how the daily routine works. Do we all just hang out in the various encampments and answer questions? I can't imagine the public will be a non-stop flow of people walking by and asking questions for 12 hours a day... what exactly does one do at a living history / reenactment event? This will sound silly, but if you guys are doing Crusader era, and I'm doing 14th century, does that mean we're not supposed to be in the same encampment areas together? I mean, you guys are the only people I will 'know' at the event, even though we haven't met in real life before, but I know I'd feel more comfortable going to something totally foreign to me if at least I get to do it with people I'm familiar with :)
I guess I just have no idea what to expect.
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Good questions. I'm going to guess that between visiting patrons, folks more or less try to stay "in character" and socialize amongst themselves. But I haven't been to one yet, so I can't say for sure.
I know one thing I'd plan on is try to get a lot of pictures. It's a rare opportunity to stage a variety of great portraits, action scenes, etc.
As for mixing periods, I have a feeling they'll try to group people accordingly in terms of tent space, but it doesn't mean people can't interact. I'm thinking I'll probably do circa 1250 for the most part, but I can also bring my plate kit, which would put me in the 15th century, and I'd probably match no one. :)
I haven't decided for sure if I want to do the hotel room or not. My other idea is to get a room on Thrusday and Sunday nights, but camp on Friday and Saturday. One concern is leaving my tent and gear on site while I leave. But then again, as I said before, I like my air conditioning and modern shower. So we'll see.
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living history can vary from event to event. sometimes you are in a submersion event were you have nothing but period stuff and thats what you do all the time. DOTK seems what we think of as a public show. you look like you belong in period but it is hard to be submerged in it due to the questions etc and relating with the public. so its period really only in background and yourselves.
usually you are in "period" from event hours say 9-5ish then people like to party afterwards :) i've been doing lh for 10+ years now so any questions feel free to ask.
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Yeah, Sir Wolf if you could give us the rundown on how this whole thing works, that would be great! :)
My thing is I have very very little in the way on an encampment, just 2 chests for all my stuff. (though I will have some banners and flags) So naturally I'm going to have to bum with someones campsite (Sir Eds)
I'm gong to be portraying a 1350 Teutonic Knight (though for the combat I'll be dropping to 1370 so I can wear as much nice protective plate as possible) which will allow me to use pretty much all the armour I've collected over the years.
Sir Ed, if you're worried about leaving our stuff out, I could sleep in the tent to keep everything good and not stolen. (though I will levy a watchman's tax, in the form of the use of your hotel shower :D)
Ian, if you got yourself a Teutonic Tabard, you could probably camp with me and Sir Ed, and be contemporary with my kit! (we're both doing Teutonic Knight)
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for this show it will be a lot of "who am i? what am i wearing? why am i here? yes that is a real fire. no you can't cut your sibling with the sword. this is what the encampment would have looked like. no i'm not an actor. i am (enter employment name) in real life" then the public moves on to the next encampment.
i would say if you guys hung out at one tent. had a suitable "periodisc" looking background it will be fine. you don't have to explain why you are together unless you use the order of the marshal banner and that you are showing a multitude of periods etc. public really doesn't know the details of a glastonberry chair vs a 900s box chest so what you have will be fine. you will find yourself learning jsut as much as the public does. learning your interactions with them and other reenactors. learning their kits and how to make your own better (thats the best thing!!) :)
anything else? :) happy to help
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I've been pushing a bit to try to make this. With a multiple-albion repair quote looming over my water supply system, it's going to be a "well holds out and I make DoK" or "well let loose and I needed running water more than event attendance". Fingers, crossed.
I decided it'll be camping for me. So, I made a deposit on a tent last week (a day before the well issues ... ugh!). I found my old SCA feast gear, so I've got a couple wooden bowls and such. I'm looking at furniture options now. I'll need a bed, somewhere to sit, and a couple chests, at least. If I have time and funds, I'll expand from there. I posted a long-winded thing in the Days of Knights FB page. Here's a short summary:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/th_2012-07-22154932.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-07-22154932.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/th_2012-07-22154944.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-07-22154944.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/th_2012-07-22155004.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-07-22155004.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/th_2012-07-22155013.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-07-22155013.jpg)
Basic slat bed, based off the "gokstad" viking bed. Basic benches. Basic half-lap chests. One of them will be hiding a modern cooler, so I can keep cold drinks and such. Mortise and tenon joints on the bed and benches. Chests will be countersunk wood screws with wood pegs to hide them. The bed will have 15 slats, but I didn't draw them all. No visible modern hardware except the chest hinges, and everything but the chests breaks down into individual boards for easy transport. I may do some very light and basic engraving or decorative cutouts, depending on time and energy. To finish it, I'll be going with a simple stain.
That gives me a tent, somewhere to sit, somewhere to sleep, somewhere to store stuff ... a post to hang the gonfalon and I should be almost set. Am I missing anything? Would the furniture look sufficiently medieval? I've seen period examples of all of those, with minor variances, but don't know if they're broadly medieval or only a specific time period. Plus, after Days of Knights, I'll have it all on hand for us to use at VARF next year if we get our own space - I think the disguised cooler will be great for that. :)
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Very cool! You are a knight of many talents! :)
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A bed frame is an excellent idea. For Pennsic, I've always done an inflatable mattress, just well covered in furs and blankets so that you don't see it. :)
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A bed frame is an excellent idea. For Pennsic, I've always done an inflatable mattress, just well covered in furs and blankets so that you don't see it. :)
Hard to hide a hammock. lol But hell, my back appreciates it.
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If I stay with the camp, then I'll use a sleeping bag. Easy to hide, and simple.
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... though for the combat I'll be dropping to 1370 so I can wear as much nice protective plate as possible...
I've been meaning to ask you Sir Nathan, what weapon do you plan on using? ???
If you need a rebated arming sword you can borrow mine.
(http://www.kultofathena.com/images/PC2046_l.jpg)
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cool idea.
if in a pinch take 2 bed sheets and sew them together save for one end. then ask for hay/straw (which ever is the better of the too) and see if they can supply it at the event. then stuff your "tick" and wala a bed! but a air mattress works great too! hehehe
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Sir Wolf, what is going on in your avatar?
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Sir Wolf, what is going on in your avatar?
Looks like a Lucy & Charlie Brown football punting reenactment. Perhaps a foot massage. Hmmmmm....
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Sir Wolf, what is going on in your avatar?
We were doing the Monty-Python "Black Knight" thing. His arm is cut off, and he's kicking me in the side of the head.
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From the FB page:
I was just informed by the local tourism office that the weekend of Days of Knights coincides with Kentucky State University homecoming. This will have no effect on the event except that hotel and motel space will be difficult to find. If you need off-site lodging MAKE RESERVATIONS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, I found out we can arrive thursday and set up, and stay overnight sunday, and leave on monday. I'll be doing that. And no hotel cost. Huzzah!
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I managed to talk my dad into bringing me. He does want to sleep in a hotel though so we gotta rent a room or something. I would of liked to of camped out though but he doesnt want to. I also lack a tent and period bedding as well as mess kit.
Got to know what to buy and how to get it because I got 3 months to prepare for this. Kit wise I think i'm pretty much set with the exception of my gambeson not being a 13th century design and getting a surcoat and maille tailored and mittens. I dont have any period furniture or eating kit or bowls. I just lack maille chausses and off the rack ones wont fit my stick legs. Guess I aint as prepared as I thought.
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From the FB page:
I was just informed by the local tourism office that the weekend of Days of Knights coincides with Kentucky State University homecoming. This will have no effect on the event except that hotel and motel space will be difficult to find. If you need off-site lodging MAKE RESERVATIONS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, I found out we can arrive thursday and set up, and stay overnight sunday, and leave on monday. I'll be doing that. And no hotel cost. Huzzah!
Good to know. I at least want the room for Thursday and Sunday nights, so I'll reserve it straight through. I can always cancel. Now to see where I put that list that was emailed to me. :)
Also, if you're thinking of coming, that gives us more options for carpooling with Sir Nathan as well. Though I'm not sure what kind of space you'll have for packing up a vehicle, compared to mine.
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I managed to talk my dad into bringing me. He does want to sleep in a hotel though so we gotta rent a room or something. I would of liked to of camped out though but he doesnt want to. I also lack a tent and period bedding as well as mess kit.
Got to know what to buy and how to get it because I got 3 months to prepare for this. Kit wise I think i'm pretty much set with the exception of my gambeson not being a 13th century design and getting a surcoat and maille tailored and mittens. I dont have any period furniture or eating kit or bowls. I just lack maille chausses and off the rack ones wont fit my stick legs. Guess I aint as prepared as I thought.
Try these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEDIEVAL-WARRIOR-Mild-Steel-BUTTED-Leg-CHAINMAIL-Armor-Chain-Mail-Legging-Sca-u-/200788793661?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebff1d93d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEDIEVAL-WARRIOR-Mild-Steel-BUTTED-Leg-CHAINMAIL-Armor-Chain-Mail-Legging-Sca-u-/200788793661?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebff1d93d)
If they are too slinky for your thin legs...bind them using 4 chords or laces at varying points on each of your legs til they are secure but not too tight. Tie at upper thigh, just above knee, just below knee, and just above ankle. And try a high-riding harness to your waist belt if those don't work. Also, improvise by adding leg padding as needed.
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Also, if you're thinking of coming, that gives us more options for carpooling with Sir Nathan as well. Though I'm not sure what kind of space you'll have for packing up a vehicle, compared to mine.
Let's chat about this offline; I've got some variables I don't know about yet, so, it's complicated, at best.
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How long of a drive are you all looking at?
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How long of a drive are you all looking at?
It's ~500 miles (488 says the Map of Google), and around 9 hours. I'm figuring 10 or so, including stopping for lunch and gas a couple times (10mpg truck = TERRIBLE at road trips!)
I'm leaving Thursday and coming back Monday, setting a day aside for travel each way. The event itself is Fri-Sun.
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Wow man...not too bad as far as road trips go, but does make for a long day going and coming. At least you'll not be alone.
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How long of a drive are you all looking at?
It's ~500 miles (488 says the Map of Google), and around 9 hours. I'm figuring 10 or so, including stopping for lunch and gas a couple times (10mpg truck = TERRIBLE at road trips!)
I'm leaving Thursday and coming back Monday, setting a day aside for travel each way. The event itself is Fri-Sun.
I'm aiming for about the same dates. From Pensacola I'm looking at about 11-12 hrs to Frankfort, so I need a day on either end. Are we allowed to camp in modern tents at night as long as we stow them away in the car before the event starts up? That may be an option for me since I won't have period camping equipment, and will save on hotel costs.
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I'm aiming for about the same dates. From Pensacola I'm looking at about 11-12 hrs to Frankfort, so I need a day on either end. Are we allowed to camp in modern tents at night as long as we stow them away in the car before the event starts up? That may be an option for me since I won't have period camping equipment, and will save on hotel costs.
I think that's fine, but might want to double-check with the folks running it. Usually non-period stuff is OK as long as it's out of view during the day for things like this.
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... though for the combat I'll be dropping to 1370 so I can wear as much nice protective plate as possible...
I've been meaning to ask you Sir Nathan, what weapon do you plan on using? ???
If you need a rebated arming sword you can borrow mine.
(http://www.kultofathena.com/images/PC2046_l.jpg)
Sir Brian, I plan on using this.
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=DSA1533BK&name=Darksword+14th+Centuary+Practice+Sword (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=DSA1533BK&name=Darksword+14th+Centuary+Practice+Sword)
If I handle it and I find it unsuitable to use as an arming sword, I may take you up on that offer. Thank you :)
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I'm aiming for about the same dates. From Pensacola I'm looking at about 11-12 hrs to Frankfort, so I need a day on either end. Are we allowed to camp in modern tents at night as long as we stow them away in the car before the event starts up? That may be an option for me since I won't have period camping equipment, and will save on hotel costs.
I think that's fine, but might want to double-check with the folks running it. Usually non-period stuff is OK as long as it's out of view during the day for things like this.
Yep, I *think* the same, but may want to double-check with them on facebook to be sure.
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I may just plan on camping after all. Here's the hotel list I got:
Fairfield Inn 502-695-8881
Hampton Inn 502-223-7600
Holiday Inn Express 502-352-4650
Days Inn 502-875-2200
Best Western 502-695-6111
The Best Western wasn't picking up the phone when I tried, and I think the Hampton was the only one of the others that still had rooms, but they have a contract with higher rates and charging your card in advance, non-refundable.
If you still want a room, get it NOW. The homecoming event in town has all the places booked up and raising their rates.
I think I'll just camp out now. After 3 days in armor and garb, I expect to need a shower very badly now. :)
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http://www.patriotsurplus.com/r540.html?productid=r540&channelid=FROOG&utm_source=CSEs&utm_medium=GoogleProducts&utm_campaign=PatriotSurplus&gclid=CPK-6um4urECFYNx4AodAQ4A3w (http://www.patriotsurplus.com/r540.html?productid=r540&channelid=FROOG&utm_source=CSEs&utm_medium=GoogleProducts&utm_campaign=PatriotSurplus&gclid=CPK-6um4urECFYNx4AodAQ4A3w) camp shower hehee
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I may just plan on camping after all. Here's the hotel list I got:
Fairfield Inn 502-695-8881
Hampton Inn 502-223-7600
Holiday Inn Express 502-352-4650
Days Inn 502-875-2200
Best Western 502-695-6111
The Best Western wasn't picking up the phone when I tried, and I think the Hampton was the only one of the others that still had rooms, but they have a contract with higher rates and charging your card in advance, non-refundable.
If you still want a room, get it NOW. The homecoming event in town has all the places booked up and raising their rates.
I think I'll just camp out now. After 3 days in armor and garb, I expect to need a shower very badly now. :)
I'm not sure if I will be able to attend DoK w/ travel etc. Kentucky is far for me. However, for any interested, I might be able to look into timeshare accomodations I have. Resorts beats hotel by far. Give me exact dates & location for DoK & I'll see what I can arrange.
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Modern tents are a no-go for DoK. This could present a problem for me. I cannot commit to the event because I cannot just assume my leave will be approved when it's still almost 3 months away, and it looks like hotels will be full by the time I can actually give a good yes or no... grrr... Master Hughes has offered some period tent space, but I don't want to impose and have him hold space for me when I can't even commit to the event just yet. I suppose I can sleep in my vehicle! haha :)
Anyway, if anyone was going to try to camp in modern gear, find alternate arrangements.
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Well, We can always make more room in my tent. It's 12'x15', so my queen-sized air mattress fits in just one quadrant of it.
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My sleeping bag won't take up much room, so you should be fine. :)
Though as you are sleeping in Teutonic tentspace, you may have to get used to being addressed as mitbruder! ;D
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Here's a wild idea...why not sleep out in the open? Weather should be fine, right? Of course, its easy for me to suggest as I'll not be doing it. I hope to be able to attend this event with you fellows one day.
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Here's a wild idea...why not sleep out in the open? Weather should be fine, right?
... unless it rains. :)
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There is always that...and it is next to impossible to sleep out in the rain as I have cause to know. lol
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http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html (http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html) who has registered? what time frame did you put down?
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http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html (http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html) who has registered? what time frame did you put down?
I'm registered, 100 Years War.
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I registered, and said 13th, 14th, and 15th centuries. :)
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http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html (http://www.daysofknightsfrankfort.com/html/registration.html) who has registered? what time frame did you put down?
Registered (+squire), Burgundian encampment
BTW, on the FB page, they mentioned the Vikings sailing some viking ships on the water nearby. Sounds interesting!
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Once I get some pictures of my (new) gear, I'll register. Looking to in the next 2 days or so.
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cant wait!
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I need someone to camp with because I do not have a tent nor can afford one at the moment as I spent all my money on armor and new arming clothes. Would it be OK for me to camp with the Order of the Marshal's tent site? And what do I need to have for my kit? I mean I know I need eating utensils and bowls which I probably could afford. Need to know this info soon as I got to pre register for my place in this event.
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Well, I already have folks crashing in mine, so I think mine is out of space. Not sure about everyone else's though. Some of the other DoK folks might also have some space. It's worth asking.
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Yeah I dont really have any place to go, didnt prepare with tents, I spent all my money on my kit instead. The main reason I am asking is because I need to write down what tent I need to register for the event.
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So, how are the preparations going for everyone?
I've done a really good job of ignoring it, with the "I still have a couple of months to prepare" mentality. Well, those months are down to weeks now.
I haven't built any furniture yet. I'm thinking I may try to quickly make a simple table and weapon rack.
I bought some chests earlier in the year, but I think they need some internal reinforcing. This may take some work. We'll see if I get to it in time. Otherwise I just have to be really careful with them (these are the same ones I took to VARF this spring).
I need to finish painting the Teutonic shield, and hopefully the kettle helm too (which I have to start over).
I ordered a few more accessories to flesh out my feast gear some more. Over the course of the year I got a few more garb accessories too, in the form of more period-looking pouches, the viking leathercrafts shoes, some belts, etc.
I'm OK on the tent itself, and its parts. I haven't been able to put it up to test this, but my hope is to use the walls to section it in half, and make one end of it the internal, closed-off sleeping and storage area, and the other open for display. So far I really only have my chairs, chests, and weapons/armor to show off.
I'm still not 100% certain which kits are going. I figured c.1250 for sure, but I haven't circled back on fitting the mail. I think it'll work as-is, it just could be better. c.1300 can still work with the same mail, and c.1350 can now work as well. Plus my 15th. plate could go. Heck, I could throw it all in the truck and mix-and-match. But lugging three or four kits worth of armor could be a pain.
For camping accommodations in the tent, I have a couple of folding cots. I figure a cot and a sleeping bag is probably good enough. I'm not going to make my camping supplies part of the display, I don't have time or space to build anything better for that.
What else should we be thinking about?
And I figure we can coordinate and cooperate a bit too, especially if our tents are co-located.
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Well I got my soft kit all done, and for my hard kit I only need gorget and gauntlets, which are on order from Clang. Have basic silverware, and most of the other stuff. Only things I don't have done are some helm modifications, my shields, and the chests aren't painted.
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My soft kit is pretty much squared away now. We both have pouches, a basic mess kit, belts etc... On the hard kit, I'm down to the wire on HE shipping my bascinet. The aventail should be in the maille from icefalcon, and I'm going to need some time to attach it, thus requiring said bascinet :)
As far as the tent space goes, the interior of my tent will be blatantly modern. We plan on using all modern gear inside the tent as we don't have any period stuff.
We're lacking in the furniture department. We've got nothing to sit on. I did build a chest for my armor, so I suppose it would double as a bench. The hardware on the chest uses modern screws, but for my first woodworking project, I couldn't go 100% authentic when I barely knew what I was doing. I plan on bringing some non-perishable snacks and a few cases of bottled water to store in my tent so we can duck in there to drink and not pass out.
I may have to try and build a more suitable piece of furniture to sit on... but I'm also noticing how expensive this is turning out to be and I'm trying to stop spending money on it, because to be quite honest, it's getting a bit ridiculous now. I will have a front canopy fly for my tent (which I still have not had the opportunity to test out, I really need to do that this weekend), so I'd like to sit on something other than the ground! :)
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I'm bringing two chairs that I bought (those folding medieval bench-style chairs), so whoever's (limit=1) hanging out at my tent with me will have a place to sit with me. But they're backless chairs, so you can't really lounge out on these things.
Thankfully this will be deep enough into MDRF season that I'll have some tolerance for standing around in armor. But man, sitting at every opportunity does help you get through the day.
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I've got 2 chests that can make for benches. I'll be probably bringing all of my armour, as I'll be going from 1330-1360.
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I'm bringing two chairs that I bought (those folding medieval bench-style chairs), so whoever's (limit=1) hanging out at my tent with me will have a place to sit with me. But they're backless chairs, so you can't really lounge out on these things.
Thankfully this will be deep enough into MDRF season that I'll have some tolerance for standing around in armor. But man, sitting at every opportunity does help you get through the day.
Did you get the Smoke and Fire chairs? If so I'll contact them and see if they can ship me two in the next two weeks.
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Yep, I went for their more heavy-duty model. It took them some time to get them to me, but they didn't have them in stock at the time. I think they had to wait until after Pennsic. I'd give them a shout and see if they have any on hand.
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So, how are the preparations going for everyone?
What a loaded question!! :D
I received 5 or 6 orders from a few places, and still have to sort half of it. I have a bunch of stuff I ordered from 7 or 8 different places that I'm still waiting for delivery on. I'm getting a bit antsy on it, with time winding down quickly and minimal time to "test and validate" like my analyst brain wants to do. I also want to get as much as I can before I see the credit card bill, realize what I've done, and end up the emergency room. ;)
I have a bunch of stuff to build that I'll be building this weekend when I get my truck back today. Lots. Of. Stuff. Didn't realize the amount of space I'd actually have in the tent until it was actually set up - I thought it might be cramped, but it's rather nice. And at least I have a squire for this weekend's projects (all DoK related). I've done all the furniture/gear by myself so far ... I'm bleeding paint and stains!
If I get it all done as planned, I should have period seating for ... 9 or 10? If we count chests as seating, another 3 or 4 extra.
What else should we be thinking about?
I'll have a separate thread on it after the weekend, since I'm making a huge effort for the entire weekend at more prep/fab/planning.
I'm also noticing how expensive this is turning out to be and I'm trying to stop spending money on it, because to be quite honest, it's getting a bit ridiculous now.
I feel like I've almost single-handedly stimulated the economy the last 2 or 3 months by stockpiling for DoK. It's crazy, but who in their right mind wants to go around in armor all day anyway??
I'm going with the logic that it's all stuff I can use, that will be re-used at VARF and other events, and if I have children soon, better get my toys while I can still play.... :D
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Wow, you've been even more industrious than I realized. I was joking about being the order's source of encampment furniture, but seriously, it sounds like we'll be hanging out around your tent the most. :)
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wow hehehehhe i wish i could go i really do. but i just don't think i can swing the costs this year. if it would have been a better business year than ya... heck had it been a better business year i would have bought a willys jeep in january hahahah
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I got everything cept my arming clothes and surcoat with cloak. I do have an old gambeson I could use in case worse comes to worse, but she said she could get it by October, so I am hoping she's right. Just need a burlap sack or 2 to store my stuff in. I am going as a 1200s Teutonic Knight, got a better kettle helm so I could play a sergeant as well in case I dont get my arming clothing in time. I have NO furniture or camping stuff so I'd have to share in that department. I am staying in this one person's extra tent so I should be fine just worried I wont have a place to sit.
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Wow, you've been even more industrious than I realized. I was joking about being the order's source of encampment furniture, but seriously, it sounds like we'll be hanging out around your tent the most. :)
Oh, completely understood about the furniture. :) The chests are just for my stuff and the squire.
I wasn't sure how much I'd be able to fully complete (and still don't!), but when I saw how much space I actually had in the tent when we got it set up last week, I realized I can crank it up a notch or two. The squire-ly assistance for the weekend was an unexpected pleasant surprise, too.
Six of those seats will be a pair of three-person benches, to go along with the 6' dining table. I've got two individual bench/stools done, and can probably get another one or two done quickly since I've got it worked out. I plan to have the tent open for "viewing", and want it to look presentable.
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Anyone forget to pre-register? The deadline is less than a week away.
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Anyone forget to pre-register? The deadline is less than a week away.
Registered and ready. Well, not ready. Current status:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/th_2012-09-24085141_zpsb3275a9b.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-09-24085141_zpsb3275a9b.jpg)
Eek!
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Brethren,
Were you that are attending DOK still planning on doing a Longsword demonstration and if so do you want to take our Sign from VARF with you? ???
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I'm still hoping to do one, if Sir Nathan and Sir James are up to it. The sign could be useful!
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I was thinking the same so I will make sure to bring it with me on this Sunday.
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I'm still hoping to do one, if Sir Nathan and Sir James are up to it. The sign could be useful!
I'm not sure I'll do any combat, I'll gladly discuss the strengths and weaknesses of armor - but I'm not doing any cartwheels. :D
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Yep, I was hoping we could do the typical demo routine. Sir Nathan could fight me. I can do the bulk of the talking.
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Sure, I'd be up for that :)
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Two weekends left to finish preparing! The dining table is stained, the pair of 6' benches are complete, the two single-seat benches have been stained - this weekend I'll be finishing the two camp beds, and working on 3 tables - a pair of "side tables" for beside the bed, and a longer "display" table that I'll place between the beds, under my banner, with a few period ambiance items for effect.
LED candles are surprisingly dim for what I expected. And I got some that will physically fit inside the lanterns, but won't fit through the lantern door. Drat! Also have some fabric to sew some table runners. And my new cased greaves arrived.
And I let my friend tow his car with my truck earlier this week, which caused the brake & ABS lights to come on, and it's overheating. Oh, and still need to find a cap for it. And get it to my friend at the dealership this weekend.
It's going to be a busy weekend!
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Two weekends left to finish preparing! The dining table is stained, the pair of 6' benches are complete, the two single-seat benches have been stained - this weekend I'll be finishing the two camp beds, and working on 3 tables - a pair of "side tables" for beside the bed, and a longer "display" table that I'll place between the beds, under my banner, with a few period ambiance items for effect.
LED candles are surprisingly dim for what I expected. And I got some that will physically fit inside the lanterns, but won't fit through the lantern door. Drat! Also have some fabric to sew some table runners. And my new cased greaves arrived.
And I let my friend tow his car with my truck earlier this week, which caused the brake & ABS lights to come on, and it's overheating. Oh, and still need to find a cap for it. And get it to my friend at the dealership this weekend.
It's going to be a busy weekend!
It's always something, Sir James. :) Let me know how the event goes. I'd go if I could afford the travel time. :( Can't unfortunately.
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As we get closer, we'll want to make sure we're all on the same page about carpooling/caravaning over. What time to meet up, etc.
Wow, we're bringing a lot of stuff!
I started on my weapon racks today, and I bought enough wood to make two of them. I may not have time to make both, but I'll have at least one. I figure each will hold 7 weapons in any combination of swords or polearms, or thereabouts, depending on how I cut the holes. Maybe I can squeeze more in with the holes closer together.
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Think I figured out the overheating, drove it to the dealership without issues (an hour away). Brake and ABS lights are off. Having them give it a once-over to make sure.
I'm thinking I'll get the UHaul trailer the night before. That way it can be hooked up and ready to go without fiddling in the morning.
Should we try to leave really early, since once we get there, we still need to unpack and set up everything? It's getting dark early, so the more daylight, the better - I don't think there's any lighting at DoK.
If we can coordinate leaving early, and getting everything consolidated into the truck/uhaul, we should be good to go. Sir Edward, if you're not opposed to sharing sleeping space with Sir Nathan, everybody could sleep here the night before and wake up and leave together in the morning; also meaning we can have everything for everyone packed the night before. An idea to kick around.
I'm going to post my "list of stuff to pack" in a separate thread as a generic "living history checklist" thread.
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How long is the drive for you guys and what time are you aiming at arriving at the DoK site?
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So how are we doing this? Are we meeting up in the morning to deposit things in the Uhaul, or are we driving completely separatly, or what?
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How long is the drive for you guys and what time are you aiming at arriving at the DoK site?
It's roughly 9 hours from my house (488 miles). I have no idea about arrival time right now.
So how are we doing this? Are we meeting up in the morning to deposit things in the Uhaul, or are we driving completely separatly, or what?
We still need to coordinate with Sir Edward about what we'll do - Squire Chris will be staying at my house the night before so we can get the trailer the day before and have as much loaded in the truck/trailer as we can - I'm unsure what you and Sir Edward are planning to do yet, but we can coordinate via FB / PMs / whatever. As long as I have no grievous truck issues, we'll all go in my truck and tow the UHaul trailer - it's a 2 door truck, but has dual bench seats and fits 6 adults, so we should have no problems with comfort. Plus, splitting the ~9 hour drive amongst the 4 of us will make it easier to do, and without the headache of a multiple vehicle caravan with everyone driving separately. We'll just split gas & the UHaul cost (only $14.95 a day, unlimited mileage - way cheaper than gas alone for a 2nd vehicle). We have about 10 days to figure out details on leaving / arrival / etc.
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Sure, we could meet up over there the night before, get packed, and be ready to leave first thing in the morning. Daylight is a concern, yes. I'd be up for that strategy. Since I'll be working on Wednesday, I'll need to decide when to load up my truck. One possibility is to load up Tuesday night, so on Wednesday I could just zip over to your place from work and help you get the trailer set up.
Sir Ian, we're planning to do the whole drive on Thursday and set up our tents that evening.
Sir Nathan, I dug my cots out of storage, so we'll have modern cots to use in the tent. I assume you have a sleeping bag you can use?
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So, as a complete newb to the re-enactment / living history world, I'm feeling a little apprehensive right now with regard to not being poisoned to death at Days of Knights :)
As many of you saw on the facebook page, it seems that the ability to properly clean yourself is not there, 125 participants plus the public will be sharing port-o-potties, with no modern way to clean yourself afterwards (not to mention that period clothing and portable toilets don't mix well when trying to not 'touch' things), oh and then we're all going to gather at a big feast and share food that we'll be eating with our hands because it's period... See any problems here?
Now before people start telling me I'm overreacting, I've been through SERE school, eaten disgusting things and been plenty dirty while doing it, but we were using some pretty serious disinfection methods for water etc... I simply don't trust 125 participants + the public to care enough about my health to make sure they're being clean about things. I'm very tempted to stick to my own food right now.
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Having never done the "no electricity / no running water" thing for more than a day trip ... I'm concerned too. Moreso concerned since my kit isn't narrowed to a specific decade, and is basically a "16th century composite" armor, and not specifically based on one example, rather than aggregates. Soft kit is generic too. :(
I'm not too concerned about the poison (Squire! Does this taste funny? :o) ... but concerned about the facility cleanliness too. Master Hughes did say the number of port-o-potties would be based upon the number of registrants, so I'm hopeful it won't be 2 toilets to 125 registrants...
At feast, I'm eating with medieval flatware (dual prong fork, spoon, knife - hey, I'm 16th century knightly, I can do the fork ;)). Saturday's feast is during "closed" hours, so it's not technically "wrong" to use modern utensils if you really wanted, just frowned upon. If you didn't see the note about the mushed peas, they're doing apples/pears/etc instead - which is great since we can skin 'em and eat 'em, and won't have bare hands grabbing at a pile of peas. I'm also envisioning the cutting of the pig to be done with a longsword, but doubt it will actually happen that way....
In regards to food for the other meals - I'm planning on some simple non-refrigerated stuff to take. Some puddings ($10 for 10 4-packs at my local store), probably Nutella and some bread for snacks, some bottled water / gatorade / sodas, etc. There's a store a few miles away, so we'll probably make a daily ice run (I've got the concealed ice chest cooler), and grab a pack of deli meat or whatever, that will stay fresh for the day if it's on ice. I vaguely recall a "mundane food" vendor or two being there during public hours? I can get by without massive loads of food, but I'll have an 18 year old with me, and he can (and may!) eat a horse ... I may need to warn the jousters to watch the horses....
Having a very pregnant wife along would make cleanliness/germs of utmost concern for me too. IMHO, you're very right to question and be concerned. :)
(BTW, I thought the "tough it out" response/attitude from some people on the FB posts about the conditions at DoK was a bit harsh, considering some of us are first-timers and a long way from home .. hard to tell if it was sarcasm or truthful responses .. so I share the concern too)
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I'm going to plan on bringing some dry-goods as some food items. And hand-sanitizer!
I'm new to the living-history camping thing too, except for my trips to Pennsic. But I've also done extended trail hikes.
As a general rule, I try to touch absolutely nothing in the porta-potties with my hands if I can at all help it. If I need to flip the seat up, I do it with my foot. Open the door with my elbow, that sort of thing. And of course using hand-sanitizer back at your tent might be a good idea afterward.
Cleaning your dishes is a non-issue, I think. As long as you rinse it after each use, it's pretty good. That's all I'd do out on multi-day hikes on the trail. As others have pointed out, if you use soap but don't get it all off, you're going to have intestinal issues. I think it's better to just give it a good rinse so there's nothing left on it to decompose. It won't leave any meaningful amount of anything on it to be an issue.
Just keep an eye on your feast gear, or don't leave it where passing visitors will put their grubby hands all over it.
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Oh, if it's anything at all like Pennsic, be prepared for all weather. Rain is always an obvious consideration, one we can't do much about except hide in our tents.
But what I mean is, it might be warm during the day, out in the sun, even if the weather report says it'll be cool. And the nights might get chilly.
The extended forecast is showing lows in the '40s and '50s. So packing a warm sleeping bag and some extra layers to wear (even if just throwing on a t-shirt or turtle-neck hidden under garb or whatever) might be a good idea.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Frankfort+KY+USKY0919:1:US (http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Frankfort+KY+USKY0919:1:US)
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If you all are really unsure about how clean your dishes are you can always use Clorox Disinfecting Wipes, just rinse them well with clean water before using them with food. ;)
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This is good stuff fellows- for the next event especially as all of the groundwork, which is considerable, is being laid. I wish I could go with you.
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ya me too. maybe next year if they have it.
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This is not an annual event?
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May not be time authentic but I am not going without a shower. My health & cleansiness is a paranoia of mine & even the Romans had bathhouses & they considered themselves a civil society too. Too many germs & disgusting people who don't share in the importance of good hygiene. I'd have a shower rig for public use at the event.
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This is not an annual event?
Not currently, no. They're waiting to see how this one does, I think. So far they've said you shouldn't assume there will be a second event.
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We're considering bringing a camp shower. The whole 'tough it out thing' was very off-putting for me. I think we as modern follk like to pretend that people in the middle ages were dirty all the time, but that's simply not true. They took care of their own personal hygeine and had plenty of soap available etc... obviously no running water, but we don't give people of Medieval Europe enough credit for being clean.
I'm not too worried about keeping myself clean, the biggest concern was what was out of my control, that being the other participants. The non-chalant attitude by some of them just stuck out as an indicator that they're probably not as interested in staying clean as we are. Clorox wipes and lots of hand sanitizer are great ides. I hope they locate us all together so we can pool our resources on some of this stuff. We're bringing a few cases of drinking water and snacks, and are more than willing to chip in on daily runs for stuff at the local store.
Good call on the weather too Sir Ed, we've got our 40 degree sleeping bags ready to go.
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Ian, last I heard, myself, our "community squire" Chris, Sir Nathan, and Sir Edward will all be next to each other on Agincourt lane with Master Hughes and Dr Metz.
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Yeah, not everyone has the same comfort-zone with getting filthy and roughing it. I've roughed it before on the trail, so I was expecting to pretty much do the same thing here, even though I'm packing like I'm going to Pennsic (and at least Pennsic has showers you can stand in line for and freeze in).
Originally I was going to get a hotel room, so I could be sure to sleep at night and also have access to a modern bathroom and shower. But when I started calling around and they were all booked or charging outrageous rates because of the other event in town, I gave up on that idea.
A camp shower is a great idea.
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Speaking of events.... the second presidential debate is in Danville, KY at Centre College on October 11th, the night we're all arriving. It's just south of Frankfort. I would suggest avoiding that town if it falls on your driving path.
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Ian, brilliant post. I just finished reading up on a book about the 14th century English cleanliness obsession. It truly was than anyone of any standing (not just nobles) would do their best to appear and be clean. We see liberal use of whatever they had, whether it be soap, water, or simply a stream. In fact the first thing one did was give themselves a type of sponge bath, and wash the hands and face. Clothes were cleaned often as well (if possible). It seems the major things they were missing was pest control and germ theory. Unfortunately, what a huge part they had to play in health. But still, the image of everyone stinking and reveling in the filth was an anachronism.
I'll be happy to chip in and help out in any way I can to keep ourselves and the camp healthy. Rubbing alcohol good?
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Rubbing alcohol good?
A more practical and better solution Sir Nathan would be something like these:
http://www.parentgiving.com/shop/aloe-vesta-bathing-cloths-1147/p/ (http://www.parentgiving.com/shop/aloe-vesta-bathing-cloths-1147/p/)
Rubbing alcohol would dry out the skin to much. ;)
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Ian, brilliant post. I just finished reading up on a book about the 14th century English cleanliness obsession. It truly was than anyone of any standing (not just nobles) would do their best to appear and be clean. We see liberal use of whatever they had, whether it be soap, water, or simply a stream. In fact the first thing one did was give themselves a type of sponge bath, and wash the hands and face. Clothes were cleaned often as well (if possible). It seems the major things they were missing was pest control and germ theory. Unfortunately, what a huge part they had to play in health. But still, the image of everyone stinking and reveling in the filth was an anachronism.
I'll be happy to chip in and help out in any way I can to keep ourselves and the camp healthy. Rubbing alcohol good?
I recommend Clorox bleach wipes for those with stronger stench than others. :) LOL Let's face it, Italians can really sweat during a workout & it kills everything. The only downside with it is an albino-skin side-effect w/ some slight irritation. ;D
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Originally I was going to get a hotel room, so I could be sure to sleep at night and also have access to a modern bathroom and shower. But when I started calling around and they were all booked or charging outrageous rates because of the other event in town, I gave up on that idea.
That was a huge part of my motivation to get a tent, and start on the furniture building. I considered a hotel, then my wife may have gone when she could shower and charge her phone, wifi, etc. Or to hotel on Thursday arrival and Sunday night, and camp Fri/Sat. The cost of staying in a hotel for 4 nights was enough I thought, I'd rather put that money into a tent instead.
Ian, brilliant post. I just finished reading up on a book about the 14th century English cleanliness obsession. It truly was than anyone of any standing (not just nobles) would do their best to appear and be clean. We see liberal use of whatever they had, whether it be soap, water, or simply a stream. In fact the first thing one did was give themselves a type of sponge bath, and wash the hands and face. Clothes were cleaned often as well (if possible). It seems the major things they were missing was pest control and germ theory. Unfortunately, what a huge part they had to play in health. But still, the image of everyone stinking and reveling in the filth was an anachronism.
I'll be happy to chip in and help out in any way I can to keep ourselves and the camp healthy. Rubbing alcohol good?
But .. but .. there's some lovely filth over here! ;)
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A more practical and better solution Sir Nathan would be something like these:
http://www.parentgiving.com/shop/aloe-vesta-bathing-cloths-1147/p/ (http://www.parentgiving.com/shop/aloe-vesta-bathing-cloths-1147/p/)
Good idea. Where can I find these locally? It's not something I've looked for before. I'm assuming some of the grocery stores or CVS or something might have it?
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ooh, good find Sir Brian. Yeah, would they be at a rite-aid or something?
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CVS, Rite Aid, Walmart, etc. - All should have them. ;)
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Well, I'm hoping we can still do our combat demo out there. Nicky loved the idea when I initially brought it up. But it looks like I'm out of the loop with their new combat coordinator (so far he hasn't replied to me emails or included me in the mailing list). I don't see us on the schedule either, though they have some generic-sounding listings on there.
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Check your email. Another follow-up email was sent, and we're on the list of groups to perform during the "non-formal" demo times. Looks like the demo rotation during the formal demo time is only 15 minutes long for everything - combat, cutting, talking, any of that. So I think we just need to come up with a couple times sat/sun to do some demos during the non-formal hours, and coordinate with Tom B to make sure we aren't conflicting with the other groups that want to do demos at the same time, since all combat has to be within the single combat ring, meaning we can't have overlapping times. I think we can still do them, it's just getting a little hairy since Nicky has delegated all combat stuff to someone else.
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Five more days before we leave... I'm not ready! I'm not ready! lol
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Well, the second weapon rack is standing. I might not have the time to paint them, but we'll see. The good news is that if we're pooling resources a bit, I can accommodate a bunch of extra weapons now. I'm planning to pack something like 4 hafted weapons, maybe 3 swords, and 1 miscellaneous, which fills one rack (they hold 8 each).
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So, complications time. My School has decided that Thursday will be my senior night soccer game, which as a senior captain I am not allowed to miss.
This means I can't ride down with you guys on Thurs.
However, my parents have been really great with this, and I and my family are coming down on Friday (Should arrive mid-afternoon). I will be staying the whole time (they will be leaving earlier) and driving back up with you guys on Monday.
No big changes.
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So, complications time. My School has decided that Thursday will be my senior night soccer game, which as a senior captain I am not allowed to miss.
This means I can't ride down with you guys on Thurs.
However, my parents have been really great with this, and I and my family are coming down on Friday (Should arrive mid-afternoon). I will be staying the whole time (they will be leaving earlier) and driving back up with you guys on Monday.
No big changes.
oh but it is! how will you earn your "tent assembly in darkness" badge? and leave the old folks to struggle????
we will see you Friday. remember there are restrictions with cars and such during public hours
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Oh man, what fun with last minute changes. It sounds like things will work out OK though. But to make up for it, maybe we should have you take down the tents in the dark at the end. :) lol
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What's your guys' plan for valuables? Keys, cell-phones, cameras, etc...
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My plan is to throw them all into a lockable foot-locker. People much less likely to abscond with an entire box than with pocket-sized items.
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What's your guys' plan for valuables? Keys, cell-phones, cameras, etc...
Angry looking people with sharp weapons. ;)
Aside from that....
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/jba3/medieval/camp-furniture-drafts/2012-10-08101532.jpg)
Medieval padlocks!
I'm also going to have a pouch on me, and my squire will have one too. Keys, wallet and cell phone will be in the pouch me with.
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I will be tailoring my maille while I am there as a demonstration on riveted maille for people to see. All I really need is some steps and help doing it because I have no clue how to take the measurements. I dont have period tools though so I will be using modern tools but they wont look TOO modern as they're solid metal with rubber grips so my boney hands will be able to handle it. I would REALLY appreciate it if someone would help me do it, of course all I really need help with is taking the measurements over my new gambeson, my parents had no clue how to do it and I dont know how to take my own measurements so I think the best option is to ask someone with experience on how to do it so I dont take the measurements wrong and screw it up. Last thing I want is to screw my maille up at home and not have a hauberk to wear at the event so I'm playing it safe and I'm gonna do it at DoK. It was Robert Coleman's idea to demonstrate it for people and maille is my favorite armor type so it would be cool to show people how it's done and that real maille was never butted and was riveted. Also would give me something to do there so I dont end up getting bored during camping.
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Just understand that if you plan to tailor a hauberk at DoK, you will be spending pretty much the entire event doing just that. You will more than likely not be finished with it very quickly, so you may not get to wear it all during the event if you choose to go that route, or at least not for a long while.
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Yeah that could be an issue, I just have NO clue how to do it myself with measurements. My parents weren't much help with measuring it and they kept nagging and getting angry and impatient with me saying "you wont be able to fit your arms into it" and other stuff. Maybe I could just do the measurements there and finish it at home? The hardest part for me isnt making the maille, it's the measurements. Also going over it with a sharpie or dry erase marker is impossible because my maille is blackened; all I really ask is someone to measure it over me and I will finish it at home or something. Thats all I really need assistance with.
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I'll be glad to help you start. I can give you some pointers on how to size it, etc. You're bringing tools, yes? I don't think anyone will mind modern tools.
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Well, I'm packed, and the truck is FULL. And I mean FULL. Well, technically I can squeeze some more into the cab, but the bed is packed right to the ceiling and up to the glass at the back. Very much like Pennsic... except this time it's just my gear and not accommodating my wife too. I got overly optimistic about fitting those chests in, along with armor bags and so on, but managed to make it work.
Here's the final packing list:
Days of Knights
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X = skipping this trip
Panther Pavilion Tent, all poles, canvas, ropes, stakes, hammers
tarp
Rugs
X - Finials
Banner
chairs
chests
cooler
weapon racks
X - table
lanterns
candles
fire source (lighters/matches)
period fire kit
feast gear
goblets or mugs
pitcher
plates
spoons
knives
scissors
Garb (shirts, tunics, hosen, braeies)
cloaks
Mail kit (teutonc & personal colors, helms, etc)
14th c. plate kit
arming clothes (caps, gambesons, pourpoints)
spurs
boots
shoes
pouches
belts
gloves
extra leather + laces
leather punch
mail tools (pliers, wire cutters)
wasters
fencing gear
CUP! + underwear
danes
extra socks/underwear
toiletries
vitimins, sleepaids, etc
nyquil
earplugs
sleeping bag
extra blanket
pillow
2 cots
box of camp supplies (pennsic box)
plastic utensils
mirror
fire extinguisher
propane stove + pot
bug spray
duct tape
extra tent stakes
zip-locks
etc,etc
food (dry goods / snacks)
bottled water
alcohol (cider)
knighting supplies:
binder with certs & ceremony
wax seals
spare spurs
towel
rag
hand-sanitizer
wipes
paper towels
toilet paper
trash bags
FUN & GAMES
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cathedral
WEAPONS
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2 or 3 Albions swords
spear
sparth axe
dane axe
glaive
mac bible chopper
dagger(s)
poleaxe
ARCHERY
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X - crossbow + bolts
X - bow + arrows ?
PHOTOS
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camera + CHARGE IT!
tripod
ELECTRONICS
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backpack
phones
chargers
inverter
power strip
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Allright that would be good and I gotta start packing for the event. Gotta get up early and do it and normally I am a night owl so it may be tough. I got virtually everything I need except tailoring my maille so I am good to go pretty much. Just gotta make a list and check it twice. Still clueless with how to put my chausses on so I may have to do that there, thankfully Frank from viking leathercraft will be there so he may be able to punch my belt for me. I also will be buying another belt from him. I will be bringing my leather tie to help suspend the chausses. They're not the type that cover the whole leg, they only cover the front.
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Well dang. Ian asked if alcohol on site is OK, and apparently it's not:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/daysofknights/permalink/263052553761989/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/daysofknights/permalink/263052553761989/)
I already packed it, so I'll just take it out when we repack at Sir James's place.
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I got my pee pee slapped for asking that question. My intent was not to ruin anyone's fun, but state law is state law, and that's a dumb reason to get arrested. I was genuinely curious, being ignorant to Kentucky state laws, but I knew in FL it would be illegal, so I thought I'd ask. My apologies. The response to my question, that I shouldn't have asked that in a public forum, once again raises some hairs on the back of my neck. It's either legal or it's not, and trying to hide that question tells me that people there don't care whether it's legal or not and would rather not publicly be told no, so they can claim ignorance later... A little off-putting...
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I got my pee pee slapped for asking that question. My intent was not to ruin anyone's fun, but state law is state law, and that's a dumb reason to get arrested. I was genuinely curious, being ignorant to Kentucky state laws, but I knew in FL it would be illegal, so I thought I'd ask. My apologies.
No apologies needed, that was the smart thing to do. It didn't even occur to me that we were going to be in a public park, and there might be legal issues. It's better to know right now.
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I don't see the comments in there at all, they must have been pulled. Considering that most people knew this is a first time event, it's been a real mix of inviting and off-putting at the same time. It's beginning to make me wonder how things are going to go. Hoping for a good time though.
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I got my pee pee slapped for asking that question. My intent was not to ruin anyone's fun, but state law is state law, and that's a dumb reason to get arrested. I was genuinely curious, being ignorant to Kentucky state laws, but I knew in FL it would be illegal, so I thought I'd ask. My apologies. The response to my question, that I shouldn't have asked that in a public forum, once again raises some hairs on the back of my neck. It's either legal or it's not, and trying to hide that question tells me that people there don't care whether it's legal or not and would rather not publicly be told no, so they can claim ignorance later... A little off-putting...
I absolutely agree Ian! Those negative responses are a bit disturbing especially coming from people who are supposed to be espousing chivalric principles! ???
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I got my pee pee slapped for asking that question. My intent was not to ruin anyone's fun, but state law is state law, and that's a dumb reason to get arrested. I was genuinely curious, being ignorant to Kentucky state laws, but I knew in FL it would be illegal, so I thought I'd ask. My apologies. The response to my question, that I shouldn't have asked that in a public forum, once again raises some hairs on the back of my neck. It's either legal or it's not, and trying to hide that question tells me that people there don't care whether it's legal or not and would rather not publicly be told no, so they can claim ignorance later... A little off-putting...
I absolutely agree Ian! Those negative responses are a bit disturbing especially coming from people who are supposed to be espousing chivalric principles! ???
I searched a bit and didn't see it, but I vaguely recall seeing something saying "after hours" and "we are not going to inspect your drinking vessels", along with the normal warning that unsuitable behavior would arrange a meeting between the offender and some gentlemen in non-period blue clothing. It didn't stick with me much as I don't drink, but I really see no issues at all with asking the question and receiving such a backlash. And for the "tough it out!" with germs, when some people are going to a hotel every night and showering too ... just not sure why the odd responses to the question, other than the only *official* response comes from Nicky Hughes, and everyone else is just tossing in their opinions - which is important to remember, if it's not Nicky Hughes, it's just someone's opinion. And you know what they say about those. ;)
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Yeah, I don't get why she jumped on you Ian. Unless it was just that she didn't want to say publicly that if you're discreet, no one will call the cops, but break the law at your own risk?
Oh well, whatever, now we know.
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Well, I'll shortly be going off the grid til next week. Have a good week everyone! I'll be away on campaign.
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Yeah, I don't get why she jumped on you Ian. Unless it was just that she didn't want to say publicly that if you're discreet, no one will call the cops, but break the law at your own risk?
Oh well, whatever, now we know.
What cops don't know, won't hurt anyone. :) Just my opinion.
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Aren't you in law enforcement Lord Dane? ;) ;D
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Aren't you in law enforcement Lord Dane? ;) ;D
Yes & most cops are not going to this event looking to bust knights drinking discriminately. What gets cops' attention is "stupid drunk antics" that get "complaints" or "potentially people hurt". So just be discreet & don't do anything stupid. They won't care or know the wiser. Minor infractions are overlooked typically if nothing serious.
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I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but: You knights who are going please make sure to take plenty of photos! Perhaps even a short video ;)
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I thought drinking was disallowed in any public park...hence the discretion necessary to do it on the sly. Sir Nathan...if cops busted everyone for every tiny infraction, I'd say 80% of the population would have a criminal record. If they do not already. lol
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I thought drinking was disallowed in any public park...hence the discretion necessary to do it on the sly. Sir Nathan...if cops busted everyone for every tiny infraction, I'd say 80% of the population would have a criminal record. If they do not already. lol
It is why u do things discreetly but cops use discretion also in how they enforce infractions.
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'Twas but a jest, milords.
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Ok, pics are starting to roll in on Facebook and you guys look AMAZING! I am so jealous that I wasn't there to see it all in person. :) Good work!
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I'm sure you guys had a blast & it was a strong showing at DoK. :) Sorry I couldn't attend. Hope to see lots of good pics. And I haven't forgotten about our warhammer clash, Sir Nathan. :)
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Ok, pics are starting to roll in on Facebook and you guys look AMAZING! I am so jealous that I wasn't there to see it all in person. :) Good work!
Oh, it was fantastic. Truly, truly fantastic! I've only seen about 600 or 700 photos so far. :D
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I can't wait to see the photos you gents took! I know Ian was generating a bit of buzz on the AA as his photo was linked.
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I'm still working on photos, but here's a start:
My circa-1250 Teutonic Kit from Friday:
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-teutonic (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-teutonic)
Sunday morning's Latin church service:
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-church (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-church)
Accolade Ceremony, Sir Ian, Saturday:
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-accolade (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-accolade)
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Very cool! Did you use Sir Ian's Crecy for the dubbing? :)
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Sure did!
But you know what? Afterward, I realized we didn't do a buffet/colee. Doh!
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Sure did!
But you know what? Afterward, I realized we didn't do a buffet/colee. Doh!
Next time we see each other, slap me in the face and we'll call it good :)
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Thanks for posting those pics, Sir Edward! I would have loved to attend the Latin Mass. Congratulations on acquiring your spurs, Sir Ian! Were you gentlemen able to engage in any combat at DoK?
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But you know what? Afterward, I realized we didn't do a buffet/colee. Doh!
Next time we see each other, slap me in the face and we'll call it good :)
It's a deal. I think. lol :)
Thanks for posting those pics, Sir Edward! Were you gentlemen able to engage in any combat at DoK?
We sure did! We had a demo on both Saturday and Sunday. Not a huge turnout, since the crowds didn't really pick up until closer to noon, and we had morning shows. But people seemed to enjoy it in any case. We had a bigger crowd on Saturday, but I think we fought better on Sunday.
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More photos:
Event & Portraits:
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-misc (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-misc)
Antiques & Artifacts:
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-antiques (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-antiques)
I still have the joust photos left to do, and general site photos, and then that's all of them.
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I am feeling very non-chivalrous amounts of insane jealousy over all of you. Each photo is sheer torture! Would that I had been there.
Just kidding. This event was the definition of awesomeness, and I intend to pour over each photo for ideas and inspiration. ;D
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I hope it is or becomes a yearly affair...and I hope to attend the next one with you fellows.
Hey! Are you guys handling those antiques w/out gloves?!?
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I hope it is or becomes a yearly affair...and I hope to attend the next one with you fellows.
Hey! Are you guys handling those antiques w/out gloves?!?
Hopefully they'll hold it again in the future. It was planned as a one-time event, and the coordinator (Nicky Hughes) is retiring within the next couple of months. He's hoping someone else will pick up the mantle, and he can just attend as a participant.
But yes, we're handling the antiques without gloves. The owner was very casual about it. He was genuinely surprised that anyone even WANTED to pick them up. He just left the key for the cases with us and let us go at it. Then, he showed us those cardboard boxes full of horseshoes, chapes, pommels, belt buckles, and so on, and just flipped through them to show us all the bits and pieces. It was quite amazing.
I think this photo of Sir Nathan sums up how we all felt:
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/b3804.jpg) (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/b3804b.jpg)
And me too... :)
(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/b3814.jpg) (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/b3814b.jpg)
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That guy's camp was staggering. I peeked through the tent from outside, he said come in, and I asked if I could sit down .. not because I was in harness, but because the whole thing was truly staggering. That axe is "only" about 700 years old. There was a roman spatha in there that was from ~700AD - so, about 1,300 years old! We fondled it, I mean, handled it, without gloves too.
Those are great looks to describe it.
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That guy's camp was staggering. I peeked through the tent from outside, he said come in, and I asked if I could sit down .. not because I was in harness, but because the whole thing was truly staggering. That axe is "only" about 700 years old. There was a roman spatha in there that was from ~700AD - so, about 1,300 years old! We fondled it, I mean, handled it, without gloves too.
Those are great looks to describe it.
I guess that is one way to get a hold or make your mark on history. Fingerprints. :) Wonder how many men that axe has cut down. Hmmmm.... Looks like you guys had a great time!!
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HAH
do you guys actually know whom it was you met? Dan Peterson? he is the reason we have deepeeka armor and such. he has been involved in various medieval groups and has written a few books. he has worked in several museums and such. a really great guy that you could pick his brain for hours on end ;) very humbling once you realize you met a historical giant of our time hehehe
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HAH
do you guys actually know whom it was you met? Dan Peterson? he is the reason we have deepeeka armor and such. he has been involved in various medieval groups and has written a few books. he has worked in several museums and such. a really great guy that you could pick his brain for hours on end ;) very humbling once you realize you met a historical giant of our time hehehe
Yep. I saw the Sigismund of Tyrol replica and he said it was the original they built all the others from when he went down there to show them how to make it. He had another harness and a few other sallets there too. He spent 20 years in Europe / Germany, found some of the artifacts himself, he painted his tent himself as a replica of a period Burgundian design, and is most into the Roman era stuff (that he wrote a few books on). He's an awesome guy, I spent probably 45 mins to an hour down there just chatting with him - when I wasn't ogling everything.
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Last batch of pictures:
Site & Encampment
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-site (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-site)
Joust
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-joust (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-joust)
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The official word from Nicky Hughes (organizer for the event) about next year:
I have just been informed that there will be no Days of Knights in Frankfort in 2013. Maybe sometime in the future - maybe - but not next year. So, let's treat the event as Mr. Brunette suggested last Saturday evening - as "one brief shining moment - Camelot."
So... it's either done, or it'll happen in a future year, or it will have to be someplace else.
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Sir Edward just ninja'd me on the bad news. :(
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Sir Edward just ninja'd me on the bad news. :(
lol, sorry about that. :)
BTW, for snagging the pictures into a consolidated album, you can grab the 1280-pixel images from these folders:
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-accolade/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-accolade/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-antiques/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-church/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-church/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-joust/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-joust/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-misc/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-misc/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-site/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-site/)
http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-teutonic/ (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2012/dok-teutonic/)
(just note that the large images are the "b" copies, where it's in the format "bNNNNb.jpg", with the smaller resolution copies lacking that second "b" in the filename. The "b" means "big")
Up to you whether you want to include the accolade images, since that was more "our" thing and not so much the event, but it did happen there.
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Well, Dan Peterson has an idea for a venue in Lexington KY.
However, Nicky replied with this:
Do nothing yet. There may be another, vastly easier option. Stand by.
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Well, Dan Peterson has an idea for a venue in Lexington KY.
However, Nicky replied with this:
Do nothing yet. There may be another, vastly easier option. Stand by.
Why do they toy with my emotions?!?!? :D
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Last batch of pictures:
Site & Encampment
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-site (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-site)
Joust
http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-joust (http://ed.toton.org/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?g=2012.dok-joust)
Thanks so much for all the photos, Sir Edward! Other than the pics of you knights and the accolade ceremony, the first photo here in 'Site and Encampment' is perhaps my favorite. The tents and banners with the trees in the background, all golden and green in the morning sun - very idyllic. No trace of the modern world.
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Well, Dan Peterson has an idea for a venue in Lexington KY.
However, Nicky replied with this:
Do nothing yet. There may be another, vastly easier option. Stand by.
Why do they toy with my emotions?!?!? :D
Seriously! I can't take it! Make it happen somewhere and point me in the right direction! :)
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Does anyone else have the desire to set up their tent in the yard this weekend and do a little medieval camping? :D
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Does anyone else have the desire to set up their tent in the yard this weekend and do a little medieval camping? :D
If only I had a yard. *sigh* :)
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i got 9 acres here, 1 at my house and 30 acres with no visible modern stuff. pick a weekend ;) hahahahha like i said, april i will get the dates to my 2 other events and will go from there
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i got 9 acres here, 1 at my house and 30 acres with no visible modern stuff. pick a weekend ;) hahahahha like i said, april i will get the dates to my 2 other events and will go from there
April would be a great time for me! :)
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Me too...I do have a yard but no camping equipment. :)
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Does anyone else have the desire to set up their tent in the yard this weekend and do a little medieval camping? :D
Going to do that with my brother and Chris at some point, just for a "medieval weekend" thing. I felt weird sleeping indoors on Monday night. :D
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We need to do that. Have like order medieval camping trips.
Anyhow, DOK was phenomenal. The best descriptor of the event was my face in my axe photo. I felt that the whole weekend.
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That was a great shot, Nathan.