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Main => The Courtyard => Topic started by: Sir Edward on 2012-10-19, 18:24:13
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Hey all, I just thought I'd start a thread super-early for the next WMAW. If you go to only one WMA/HEMA event, this should be the one. Nowhere else will you get instructors from all over the world, and see booths for Albion, A&A, DSA, and Revival Clothing all in one tent.
The problem is that registration fills up fast these days.... as in, only a few days. Registration usually opens sometime in the late spring.
The event is held at the DeKoven Center in Racine, WI (about an hour north of Chicago). It is held every other year, on the odd-numbered years.
http://wmaw.us/ (http://wmaw.us/) (currently still redirecting to 2011's page)
Of course it helps to have some WMA/HEMA background, but most of the classes assume you have little or no knowledge. This is because many of the people who go will use it as an opportunity to learn something new. For instance, a rapier-fighter might use it as an opportunity to try longsword. Or a German longsword fighter might want to try the Italian version. Also many of the classes focus on a specific aspect, like actions from the Zwerchau, or the importance of distance, or some-such.
Other classes may be things that very few people have tried, like knife throwing, or bartitsu with canes.
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I remember you mentioning this, you actually went, did you not Sir Edward? I'll be keeping an eye out on this thread. I said I wanted to go and I do...maybe I'll actually get to this time around.
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I'm tempted to go just for the shopping aspect. :) But finding out recently I can't read numbers was a big help - I may try to get out to this one.
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I'll be there for sure! :) I *adore* this event.
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Man I really hope I can swing this financially next year. I MUST go to Florida this May which might prohibit my participation in this event. :-\
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I am considering attending this one, but with budgetary uncertainty and college in the way, I may not attend. Honestly, I would work to be able to attend this event.
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I backed out of going in 2011. I think I might give it a try this year.
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Wish I could but that's 2,000 mile drive from here, and I can't as yet afford the plane ticket.
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Wish I could but that's 2,000 mile drive from here, and I can't as yet afford the plane ticket.
And over that distance, the gas would probably cost as much as flying. I have that debate with myself every year too, though the distance for me is about half that.
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I agree, the distance is way too big for me and my pops (we live in New Jersey). The expenses for either gas or plane tickets would overwhemingly be bigger than my savings.
On top of that, I have college during september of 2013, if I could attend summer classes in order to skip a semester I would go for it. In spite of working full time, I woudl manage if I get the green light from my folks.
I pray I get to go to this event. It would be worth saving every penny.
Question for Sir Edward: What are the booth prices for either Arms & Armor or Albion in regards to purchasing a longsword trainer?
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I think the booth prices for the trainers were not discounted. Albion often has done a 10% show price for their sharps though.
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I think the booth prices for the trainers were not discounted. Albion often has done a 10% show price for their sharps though.
Yeah I think the REAL savings you would get from purchasing a trainer from either vendor would be a savings of TIME and shipping costs since you'd be purchasing a blade they made specifically to sell at the event. ;)
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For me the travel time would be worth the inconvenience. Aside from air travel being a hassle, it is a chance to see places I haven't been able to visit yet. Also, several family graveyards are roughly along the way.
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I think the booth prices for the trainers were not discounted. Albion often has done a 10% show price for their sharps though.
Yeah I think the REAL savings you would get from purchasing a trainer from either vendor would be a savings of TIME and shipping costs since you'd be purchasing a blade they made specifically to sell at the event. ;)
And also a chance to "hands on" with one - what you like in appearance may not always feel right in the hand to you either. And that can be a very expensive experience!
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Oh yes, that's definitely true. Albion usually brings 20 or 30 of their offerings, so it's a great time to compare them. A&A usually brings a lot less, a little more focused on trainers, but it's still a good opportunity to pick up a few of their pieces as well.
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I think the booth prices for the trainers were not discounted. Albion often has done a 10% show price for their sharps though.
Yeah I think the REAL savings you would get from purchasing a trainer from either vendor would be a savings of TIME and shipping costs since you'd be purchasing a blade they made specifically to sell at the event. ;)
And also a chance to "hands on" with one - what you like in appearance may not always feel right in the hand to you either. And that can be a very expensive experience!
That is another excellent point Sir James! I was doubly blessed that between Sir Edward and Josh, a fellow MASHS student, I was able to tryout and ‘feel’ the three primary candidates for me when I was shopping for my steel training sword! – i.e. Albion’s Meyer and Lichtenauer and A&A’s Fechterspiel. ;)
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Which was your favorite to wield?
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Which was your favorite to wield?
Why the one I purchased of course! ;D
- The Meyer feels the best for me. Oddly enough all three blades are within an ounce or two of each other in weight but the Meyer feels so much better balanced that it seems noticeably lighter. ;)
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Here's me break-down of the three (all three of them are excellent, but have notable differences):
Albion Meyer: My favorite for drills and free-fencing, since it's the liveliest in feel. It's probably the best of the three for full-speed bouting, since it has a relatively light blade-presence with nice thick edges, and decent flex down near the "sweet spot" to absorb thrusts.
Albion Liechtenauer: This one is best suited to stage-combat and controlled drills, IMHO. It has a very realistic weight and balance, and the blade profile is designed to look and feel fairly real as well. That means it'll perform more like a sharp sword in the bind, and look good to an audience. The problem is that it has thin edges, so it can really hurt to get hit with.
A&A Fechterspiel: A little more blade presence, and slightly less flex, when compared to the Albion Meyer. Nice thick edges, but since it has a little less give, it can hit slightly harder. This is a mixed bag compare to the Meyer, since it's just fine to use in the same contexts, for the most part, but the extra stiffness makes it really good for practicing harnessfechten and doing half-swording. The Meyer is just flexible enough to make some of the half-swording stuff a little harder to do, and the Fechterspiel has just enough stiffness to work really well with it.
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Here's me break-down of the three (all three of them are excellent, but have notable differences):
Albion Meyer: My favorite for drills and free-fencing, since it's the liveliest in feel. It's probably the best of the three for full-speed bouting, since it has a relatively light blade-presence with nice thick edges, and decent flex down near the "sweet spot" to absorb thrusts.
Albion Liechtenauer: This one is best suited to stage-combat and controlled drills, IMHO. It has a very realistic weight and balance, and the blade profile is designed to look and feel fairly real as well. That means it'll perform more like a sharp sword in the bind, and look good to an audience. The problem is that it has thin edges, so it can really hurt to get hit with.
A&A Fechterspiel: A little more blade presence, and slightly less flex, when compared to the Albion Meyer. Nice thick edges, but since it has a little less give, it can hit slightly harder. This is a mixed bag compare to the Meyer, since it's just fine to use in the same contexts, for the most part, but the extra stiffness makes it really good for practicing harnessfechten and doing half-swording. The Meyer is just flexible enough to make some of the half-swording stuff a little harder to do, and the Fechterspiel has just enough stiffness to work really well with it.
I'm partial to the Albion Kingslayer. ;)
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I'm partial to the Albion Kingslayer. ;)
Uhm, then I'm not fencing with you. :)
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Here's me break-down of the three (all three of them are excellent, but have notable differences):
Albion Meyer: My favorite for drills and free-fencing, since it's the liveliest in feel. It's probably the best of the three for full-speed bouting, since it has a relatively light blade-presence with nice thick edges, and decent flex down near the "sweet spot" to absorb thrusts.
Albion Liechtenauer: This one is best suited to stage-combat and controlled drills, IMHO. It has a very realistic weight and balance, and the blade profile is designed to look and feel fairly real as well. That means it'll perform more like a sharp sword in the bind, and look good to an audience. The problem is that it has thin edges, so it can really hurt to get hit with.
A&A Fechterspiel: A little more blade presence, and slightly less flex, when compared to the Albion Meyer. Nice thick edges, but since it has a little less give, it can hit slightly harder. This is a mixed bag compare to the Meyer, since it's just fine to use in the same contexts, for the most part, but the extra stiffness makes it really good for practicing harnessfechten and doing half-swording. The Meyer is just flexible enough to make some of the half-swording stuff a little harder to do, and the Fechterspiel has just enough stiffness to work really well with it.
I'm partial to the Albion Kingslayer. ;)
Kingmaker?
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Kingmaker?
I make the same mistake all the time, so I didn't even catch that. :) Beautiful sword, but a little too deadly for fencing. :)
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Kingmaker?
I make the same mistake all the time, so I didn't even catch that. :) Beautiful sword, but a little too deadly for fencing. :)
Sorry yes, Kingmaker. I have 2 bastard swords in its design already. Guess it's my favorite. Very sharp & very agile, Sir Edward. I use them for cutting demos but if it came down to a fight, it's my choice for combat. :)
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In all fairness, I like Sir Brian have handled the Meyer, Liechtenauer and Fechterspiel. They are fine trainers with their caveats and features. However there a trainer that I know works for me.
Standing at 5'2" I would be more likely to use The Spada de Zogho.
(http://www.armor.com/images/train205b.jpg)
(http://www.armor.com/images/train205c.jpg)
(http://www.armor.com/images/train205a.jpg)
I know most of Ye are thinking: "What? A stiff steel bar for a trainer?"
Now I know that the blade has a rectangular shape with a rectangular cross section, tip tapering to a square instead of a point, stiffer than a Fechterspiel, and wide edges. The strength of this trainer is that its design helps it to withstand a Fechterspiel or any of the Albion trainers because of the mass structure. This is a trainer I would feel comfortable with making swift parries and strong stable blocks a la Fiore style. Plus, this trainer stands at exactly 46 3/8 inches, just about right for me (height wise). So yes, beware I can easily stop any of you with a single thrust (the grandmaster of all blows, reciting Fiore) ;)
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Announced dates: SEPTEMBER 19 - 22 (correction in the quote below in bold):
Yes, it is an odd number year, and that means the return of the Western Martial Arts Workshop.
On September 19 - 22, 2013, approximately 200 sword-swinging, knife-throwing, wrasslin' and armour-wearing lovers of the Western Martial Arts will again invade the quiet, halcyon DeKoeven Center in Racine, Wisconsin, for what is shaping up to be our most diverse, and full, event program yet!
The first of the large, international gatherings, WMAW has consistently tried to present an innovative program that promotes the entire breadth and depth of what we mean by "historical European martial artws"; from medieval martial arts to Victorian antagonistics, students will have a chance to either sample the entire scope of what we mean by "WMA", or dive deeply into any number of topics.
We are in the process of putting together the final instructor and class roster, so right now there isn't much to see at www.wmaw.us (http://www.wmaw.us). Meanwhile, here is a hint of some of what will be exciting, new or different this year:
• Four full days of training at a private retreat center, including hot breakfasts and lunches and on-site dinner options.
• We've grown! DeKoeven has expanded and renovated one its halls, so we have been able to increase our attendance size. However, rather than just make class sizes larger, we are using the new space to allow us to provide a more complete set of class and lecture tracks!
• Our largest roster of overseas instructors, ever!
• More coached and open fencing.
• Coached wrestling and "Ringen randori" - a look at medieval wrestling adapted for free play.
• A weekend long, open-list challenge tournament (stay tuned for details).
• An invitational armoured deed of arms.
• Our ever-popular Saturday night feast including a Wisconsin style pig roast, exhibition bouts and entertainment.
Registration will open in March.
Please take note of the dates: September 19 - 22, 2013, and sign up for updates, because registration, especially for on-site housing, tends to fill *fast*. How fast? Well, last time all on-line housing was claimed in 24 hours, and the event sold out in a matter of weeks. In fact, before we could even announce that registration was open, someone noticed and posted on Facebook! So keep an eye open and if you are planning to attend start making your plans now.
Looking forward to seeing old faces and making new friends!
Greg, Nicole, John, Jacques and Christina
Planning Committee - Western Martial Arts Workshop 2013
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Ugh, and I have some unwelcome potentially large bills on the way. :(
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Ugh, and I have some unwelcome potentially large bills on the way.
Agreed, with University studies on the horizon. This will make me miss it, but my time to crash the party at WMAW will come soon. ;) All will stand in awe of Fiore and Vadi put together, standing short and standing strong against the HEMA Elite. ;)
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Ugh, and I have some unwelcome potentially large bills on the way. :(
UGH, don't we all? *thinking increased tax burden*
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With my planned vacation to Florida late May this year and a drastic cut back at
work of OT I seriously doubt I will be able to swing the expense of going. :(
*sigh*
perhaps 2015? :-\
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Brother Brian...perhaps you will be able to attend the tournament at Agincourt in 2015? Celebrating the 600th year since that epic battle, the re-enactment battle that follows should be glorious, I hope. It is our (wife and I) tentative plan to make that event; and we're going to try and link up with Lord Gerard and his fine family; it'd be good to meet our across-the-pond Brother!
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WMAW registration is open. Darn, I was hoping I'd have more time. I haven't figured out what I'm doing yet this year, between this, DOK, or anything else.
Registration fills pretty quickly, so if you want to go, jump on it.
We are pleased to announce that registration for the 2013 Western Martial Arts Workshop is now open.
Please visit wmaw.us for info, class schedule and descriptions, and online registration. If you have any questions or problems with your registration, feel free to contact me at wmaw.registrar@gmail.com.
Hope to see you in September at WMAW!
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Is DoK at the same time? Or near?
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Yeah, they'd both be in the fall. I'm not sure if DoK has their dates set yet or not.
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I would love to be able to participate in such an event, but I do not know if I'll actually be able to.
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In terms of time/scheduling? Or ability? If it's the latter, there's nothing to worry about. There are plenty of newbies, and most of the classes are aimed at all skill levels, and not just advanced students.
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Is DoK at the same time? Or near?
Near. WMAW is Sept 19-22nd, and DoK is Oct 10-13th.
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In terms of time/scheduling? Or ability? If it's the latter, there's nothing to worry about. There are plenty of newbies, and most of the classes are aimed at all skill levels, and not just advanced students.
Time and money. I never worry about being the worst out there, someone's gotta be and I won't always be. ;)
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Yeah, they'd both be in the fall. I'm not sure if DoK has their dates set yet or not.
Yep, they're set. I'm handling all the content on the website for them now. :D
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.... And the registration for WMAW is now full. I didn't sign up, since I've been busy with house stuff this weekend, but have asked to be put on the waiting list. It gives me a little more time to decide what to do. :)
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Well I suppose I could try for 2015, if we are all still here that is! ;)
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The Big Scare was last December 21, 2012...think we're good. ;)
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I didn’t put any stock into that Mayan doomsday garbage anyways. ;)
However I was referring to more authenticated prophecies. If you have Netflix check out the documentary film: The Daniel Project.
www.thedanielprojectmovie.com (http://www.thedanielprojectmovie.com)
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.... And the registration for WMAW is now full. I didn't sign up, since I've been busy with house stuff this weekend, but have asked to be put on the waiting list. It gives me a little more time to decide what to do. :)
Good grief, didn't even have time to process if I thought I could make it. Decision made for me, I suppose. :)
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Yep, filled very quickly which is a good thing. I couldn't and wouldn't be able to make it this time. However the next WMAW I will be there for certain.
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They said 4 days for the event to fill, but only 30 minutes for the on-site rooms to fill. Wow.
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They said 4 days for the event to fill, but only 30 minutes for the on-site rooms to fill. Wow.
Wow, 30 minutes? That's impressive!
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Wow, 30 minutes? That's impressive!
snicker snicker, thats what she said snicker cough sputter
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Wow, 30 minutes? That's impressive!
snicker snicker, thats what she said snicker cough sputter
Beat me to it. lol
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From Greg Mele today:
A quick note that, due to cancellations, we now have five spaces open for WMAW - so if you are interested and able, contact the Registrar right away!
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Well, we're on the last day at the event here so far. I'll have to write up some more later when I'm home and recovering. I'm already pretty sore, but only have a few bruises.
As far as major event injuries go, I think 4 people ended up with finger injuries. One or two broken, and one with the thumb-nail blown off. There was a mild shoulder dislocation too.
I mentioned this on facebook, but wanted to repeat it here too. On Friday, they had the armored "deed of arms", which has gradually grown over the last few events. They have heralds announce each combatant, and put their banners out on display during the bouts. This year, for his 60th birthday, Bob Charrette wanted to fight for 60 minutes in the list. They interspersed his bouts with other bouts.
Before the deed of arms started, Sean Hayes taught an armored-drills class, which I kitted up for. I've still never been invited to participate in the deed (it's very much an invitation-only thing). After the deed was over, I was still in kit, and one of the fine gentlemen (the very chivalrous Christian Cameron) invited me to have a bout with him. I was very honored to hear him say to one of the other participants "he's worthy".
I ended up fighting 3 bouts in rapid succession, and then a 4th after a short break. I got thrown around like a rag-doll, but loved every minute of it. I got a few good hits in, but clearly got owned. :) But it was a blast.
As I said on facebook, the fact that these fine men decided to include me and have a chance to bout after the official deed of arms was over, was quite the honor, and I'm extremely grateful to them.
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Congratulations Ed. Sounds like a great time! One of the things I'm most looking forward to at DoK this year is to get to meet Bob Charette, since the whole 'Peel' thing is partially responsible for my getting in to Living History in the first place.
I've always had great respect for Christian Cameron as well. Was he in his 14th century gear? He made a very fancy version of the Charles de Blois pourpoint from Tasha's pattern that I've only seen photographs of, but boy are they great. Perhaps in 2015 you'll be in the Deed good Sir Edward!!
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awesomeeeeeeee
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Huzzah for harnessfechten! Coming to the dark side for a demo or two??
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Yeah, Christian was in his full 14th century gear, with surcoat and plaque belt. Even the under-garments are fantastic. He's very much the gentleman, on top of having a great kit, and really knowing his stuff.
I had never really talked directly to Bob Charrette before this event, though he and I were aware of each other. What I didn't know is that he used to sculpt D&D figures for Ral Partha, way back when (disclaimer: someone else was telling me this, and I didn't verify it with him). He is quite the sculptor though. He hand-made figurines as gifts for the combatants in the Deed of Arms.
The Saturday-night Feast was fantastic as always, including the demo bouts. Jesse Kulla recorded them with his phone, and has posted a couple already. These are probably the two most interesting to watch for specific reasons:
First is the knife-fight between Thayne Alexander and Keith Jennings. What's hard to see in the video is that the strikes were not light or incidental. When they hit each other, these were solid strikes. After watching it, you might agree with my feeling that I don't want to EVER get into a real knife fight:
Thayne Alexander Vs. Keith Jennings WMAW Bowie Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEig6Ih_gIA#)
The second one is a messer fight between Roland Warzecha and Jake Norwood. They wore almost no protective gear; mainly just "goggles" that protect the eyes and nose. The reason for this was that they wanted a fight where they truly respect the weapons, and try very hard not to get touched. It made for a very dynamic and tense duel:
Roland Warzecha vs Jake Norwood. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WH974doYI8#)
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Man, that knife fight looks so lethal and intense... that's really awesome. And yes, I echo your sentiment, I would much rather bring a gun to a knife fight any day of the week. The winner in a knife fight is often not in much better shape than the loser.
I never really saw good messer fighting, and always thought the weapon itself looked rather cumbersome. However, that bout in the second video really showed the true elegance of that weapon. Very impressive on all accounts!
Good stuff Sir Ed, looks like an amazing time!!
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Oh yes, it was a great event this year. It always is, but they keep refining details and inviting some new instructors each year. It's the one place you get to see international training come together like this.
I did a really good job of pacing myself. Most of the bruises, and soreness I accumulated is already fading, since I took it easy the last couple of days there. I did get a lot of fights in, and took some fun classes.
Oh, and one of the lectures I was in was about this English manuscript from the Marquis of Newcastle. It starts off explaining that his martial technique is designed to defeat ALL weapons (and he goes into excruciating detail, listing them), and he wanted to pass it on to his sons, but was dismayed that they showed no interest in learning it. So he wrote it down so that they could learn it later, in case he took it to his grave. Paul Wagner is currently transcribing the manuscript, but so far he's gotten the core of the art out. I can sum it up in one word: "LOL". :) I'll have to show it to some folks here in person later. There's really no good way to describe it. It's completely ridiculous, and yet, I think there's something to it (in the sense that he just surprised people by doing something weird, and survived on the losing side of the English civil war).
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Awesome videos! Truly I wish I could have made it this year. :(
Alas I hope I can still make it to DoK! Lord knows I’ve shelled out enough $$$ buying stuff in preparation. :-\
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First is the knife-fight between Thayne Alexander and Keith Jennings. What's hard to see in the video is that the strikes were not light or incidental. When they hit each other, these were solid strikes. After watching it, you might agree with my feeling that I don't want to EVER get into a real knife fight:
I had that feeling a year or so ago after I saw this video:
The Reality Of Knife Attack - Deane Lawler @ the A.I.M Academy 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61jnJe_1SI#ws)
It gets *real* at a little after the 1 minute mark.
The WMAW knife fight was great too. They really turn everything up a notch for that event. Maybe I'll make 2015.
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Yeah knife fights are absolutely vicious. In that video around the point where it got 'real' you see that in what.... about 2 seconds he pretty much ventilated that guy from stomach to neck and there was nothing he could do about it. There's a certain level of brutality in a knife fight that's just not seen in many other types of weapon fights. It's pure overwhelming violence of action with intent to kill.
It's over so quick, and you can just imagine if that were real, the attacker would just turn and walk away and that other guy would just bleed out on the floor in a few seconds with virtually every major organ on the left side of his body punctured, and his neck torn open. And really, after that first or second stab, the shock and incapacitation that occurs might even prevent you from attempting to stop the rest of those attacks, not that it would matter.
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Photos are up:
General:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929784856341.1073741838.534921340&type=1&l=0c9b3123e1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929784856341.1073741838.534921340&type=1&l=0c9b3123e1)
Deed of Arms, 1/2:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929731331341.1073741834.534921340&type=1&l=1f26ff13df (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929731331341.1073741834.534921340&type=1&l=1f26ff13df)
Deed of Arms, 2/2:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929753751341.1073741835.534921340&type=1&l=22348de5df (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929753751341.1073741835.534921340&type=1&l=22348de5df)
Saturday Feast:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929769386341.1073741836.534921340&type=1&l=8de19ed1d2 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929769386341.1073741836.534921340&type=1&l=8de19ed1d2)
Tournament Finals:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929778341341.1073741837.534921340&type=1&l=9b921874ec (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151929778341341.1073741837.534921340&type=1&l=9b921874ec)
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Nice!
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Wow...and those sword racks look surprisingly simple in construction- I've always wanted one rather than putting them up on a wall.
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Awesome!
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Sweet!!! Missed a good time.
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Bill Grandy vs Doug Bahnick, Messer Finals, with analysis and slow-motion replay.
Bill Grandy vs Doug Bahnick WMAW 2013 Messer Finals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JBTVimgZXI#)
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Excellent duel! I love watching two highly skilled swordsman at work! :)
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Some write-ups from the event:
Devon Boorman, of Academie Duello:
http://www.academieduello.com/news-blog/report-western-martial-arts-workshop/ (http://www.academieduello.com/news-blog/report-western-martial-arts-workshop/)
Jake Norwood, of the MD-KDF:
http://hemaalliance.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3535 (http://hemaalliance.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3535)
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Great event, Ed. Really nice pics, looks like you had a wonderful time. I met Bill G at VAF (unfortunately have not been able to get my schedule and their classes to align) and he as very generous with his time - nice to see him in action.
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Rob Rutherford Vs. Bill Grandy, rapier:
Rob Rutherford Vs. Bill Grandy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQ2rffzZG0#)
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Not sure if the hot-linking will work, but the official WMAW photography is up.
http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/ (http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/)
Some of my free-fencing was captured here: (and you can barely see my garter right behind my left knee)
(http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/thumbnail.aspx?ForceAspect=False&Width=800&Height=800&image=Photos%2F2013%2F4thDay_Thursday%2FPeriod+5%2F2000_2200_Gym_Open+Fencing%2FDSC06240.JPG)
(http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/thumbnail.aspx?ForceAspect=False&Width=800&Height=800&image=Photos%2F2013%2F4thDay_Thursday%2FPeriod+5%2F2000_2200_Gym_Open+Fencing%2FDSC06248.JPG)
(http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/thumbnail.aspx?ForceAspect=False&Width=800&Height=800&image=Photos%2F2013%2F4thDay_Thursday%2FPeriod+5%2F2000_2200_Gym_Open+Fencing%2FDSC06249.JPG)
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Some of the Armored-Drills class at WMAW, where the photographer caught me:
(http://www.wmaw.us/Gallery/Photos/2013/1stDay_Friday/Period%202/1300_1545_Gym_Drills%20for%20Armoured%20Combat_Sean%20Hayes/DSC06967.JPG)
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Awesome stuff! Oh and I highly approve of your opponent’s choice in colors for his gambeson! ;D
You just can’t stay away from the green can you? ;)
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Awesome stuff! Oh and I highly approve of your opponent’s choice in colors for his gambeson! ;D
You just can’t stay away from the green can you? ;)
Most of my opponents have been wearing green lately. It's a conspiracy, I tell you! :)
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I think Sir Edward has 'green envy' & when faced down by an opponent (of this color) finds himself painted in his true colors .... Black & Blue. LOL :)
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Awesome stuff! Oh and I highly approve of your opponent’s choice in colors for his gambeson! ;D
You just can’t stay away from the green can you? ;)
Says the gentleman with blue marks all over his gambeson. ;)
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Awesome stuff! Oh and I highly approve of your opponent’s choice in colors for his gambeson! ;D
You just can’t stay away from the green can you? ;)
Says the gentleman with blue marks all over his gambeson. ;)
lol.... :)
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Green is good - goes even better with black :)