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Miscellaneous => The Market Square => Topic started by: Sir Ulrich on 2013-08-19, 02:23:16
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I'm rather tempted to pick this up, just unsure if I got 730 in my bank account to pick it up. I always wanted that one, but I am just unsure if the pommel will dig into my wrist, my hanwei tinker norman does that and I rather hate using it as a result. I dont like the handshake grip because it feels awkward to me so I might NOT get it. If anyone knows how this handles please tell me cause I might pick this up if you dont have to use a handshake grip with it.
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I don't see why a handshake grip would be all that uncomfortable with this sword unless you have huge hands- using a hammer grip's great for hacking and bashing but you'd want to use the hand shake grip with any sort of cut or slash motion; its a natural motion that doesn't need to be read too deeply into.
You could try loosening your grip near the pommel...it should pass into your palm rather than bang against your wrist in this manner.
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He told me it's comfortable with both grips, it doesnt have the problem the hanwei tinkers have. I think I'm gonna pick it up even though I got another on the way. Mostly cause it's different and having 2 different type swords would be nice. I always wanted it plus it's in my color, red is better than a black grip, not sure how period black leather is but Jesse Bailey told me it didnt exist till the 1300s so I usually go for red leather now.
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It'll go well with your current harness, too.
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I decided to pick it up he agreed to me paying a down payment then get the rest done when I can so I will be getting the Reeve to replace my Hanwei Tinker Norman. Should go good with my kit and not have the issue of the pommel digging into the wrist due to being shaped right.
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I decided to pick it up he agreed to me paying a down payment then get the rest done when I can so I will be getting the Reeve to replace my Hanwei Tinker Norman. Should go good with my kit and not have the issue of the pommel digging into the wrist due to being shaped right.
Congrats! I'm glad he went for the down payment thing. I hope you get it in time for DoK, I'd love to see it in person!
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Tis a fine blade worthy of any knight
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Huzzah and congratulations Sir Ulrich! So methinks you’ll soon be in the market for a scabbard to house such a fine bit o’ steel! ;)
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Yeah I think I am gonna need a scabbard for it, not sure who I am gonna get it done by. I want it to be accurate and fit the rest of my kit, considering the grip color is red I might have a red scabbard done with an integrated sword belt. I don't want to pay 800 bucks for it though, so maybe I will do it myself if I could find someone to carve and glue the wood part for me.
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Making the wood core isn't that difficult or expensive. The blade geometry of the Reeve would not pose any difficulties at all. If you feel confident enough after making the core you could do the leather wrap and suspension or send it off to my friend here in Maryland for the leather work. He is very reasonable and an exceptional master craftsman. :)
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Sir Ulrich,
gotta say bud, I'm a bit jealous! :D that's awesome you decided to pick up the Reeve. Not quite my style, but man is she gorgeous. That is one of the few Albion's I've been able to hold myself. And she was a joy even with my huge paw. I hope she does well for you. I mainly grip her with my middle finger and thumb, almost like one would hold a firearm, I can't really get my forefinger in there lol. As I moved around a bit with her, I rang out my hand like I was wringing out a rag, and she felt great. She's amazing and an awesome weapon. I can't wait to hear what you think of her.
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Yeah, just need wood carving skills to make it, not sure how to do any of that the leather part looks easy enough once you got the sewing threads for it. I'd rather make it myself than spend another 800 dollars on it, of course I do know a few people who make them for cheaper so that could work. Also theres always crusader monk though I am not sure if he does integrated belts. But I will keep that guy in mind for it as leather working is not one of my skills. The only real thing I can do is maille making.
The Reeve is much better than the Hanwei Tinker Norman, I was checking the Norman vs the Reeve, the way the Norman is set up in the pommel is why it uncomfortably digs into my wrist and hand, the Reeve is set up so it does not do that. Also the Norman has too long a grip to comfortably use the handshake grip for my medium sized hands. Also dont care for the nickel finish on the hilt stuff, makes it look too modern. All I know is I think I will like the Reeve, I did pass up the chance to get a Ritter earlier this year, but I didnt care for its spatulate tip, even the Reeve looks like it would be a better thruster than the Ritter, also would fit an earlier century better so I wouldnt have to get a second one if I want to do a first crusade kit as well as a Third crusade kit. I've been wanting the Reeve since 2010 and I aint passing the chance up to get one in my color my scabbard will probably be in red because it would match my coat of arms better.
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As on FB, check with Crusader Monk about the integrated belt. He did my Mercenary scabbard with belt suspension to match my existing belt w/buckles, so he may be able to do it.
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I need to let you know I pulled the sword out to oil it and noticed that it has a very subtle clicking noise when vigorously swinging it with the flat parallel to ground. This is not new to this sword or many other Albions but had stopped on this sword and I forgot that it had happened. According to Mike S at Albion it happens and usually stops. He says that the reason it occurs is a piece of excess epoxy breaks off and it clicks. Albion will fix this at no cost and he assured me that it was in no way a functional issue so I chose to do nothing as it did not bother me much. There is a thread on this website that I started entitled "clicking noise" If a search does not pull it up you probably can find it under my profile. If you want to back out I understand and will refund your money. If you want to do nothing that is great too as there is a home remedy to this as mentioned in the string. If you like I can send it to Albion for them to remedy. Let me know what are your wishes as I want you to enjoy this sword as much as I have, it is really a sweet sword and one of the 100 piece limited swords.
Does anyone know how much of an issue this is? I mean I stupidly told my parents now they're mad at me for making the purchase. They keep telling me it isnt worth it and I'm "being cheated". I know their "trying to help me" but all they are is paranoid about almost everything, probably why they're shut ins. Maybe I should ask for a lower price? Not sure. I really dunno what to do now.
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If it's something that's going to bother you, when you pay off the sword, have him send it to Albion, they'll fix it, and then send it to you. Albion will fix it and it will be like new.
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Think I could do that, only issue I dont know if I would get it in time for DoK 2.0. My parents just said I should get it sent there to fix the issue, I sorta missed reading it that he'd send it there cause I "speed read" and miss things often, silly me. I just worry the clicking might affect the structural integrity of the sword. My hanwei tinker norman has a clicking noise but works fine, and it usually goes away during the summer and only comes out during the winter. My guess is it's the humidity in the air that causes the wooden grip to swell and contract.
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My guess is it's the humidity in the air that causes the wooden grip to swell and contract.
Yep, this is most likely what happened. So unless it stays in a climate controlled environment forever, it could happen again, but that's just the nature of the beast with wood.
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I wouldn't worry too much. The clicking, as Sir Ian said, is likely just the wood. The epoxy came loose, that can happen with swinging it. Nothing unusual there. If Albion will fix it for free, I'd say bring it to DoK 2.0 as is, don't worry about the click, and send it to them for the free repair after DoK (if that's an option).
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Yeah might do that. I just worry it might irritate me with the clicking and feel like it might come apart. Last thing I want is my Albion to break in the middle of using it.
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Yeah might do that. I just worry it might irritate me with the clicking and feel like it might come apart. Last thing I want is my Albion to break in the middle of using it.
If the clicking is what I think it is, it's just the wood moving very slightly over the tang. The only way for it to break is for the leather to come completely off the handle and for the wood core under the leather to come apart. I've never heard of that happening, even with junky stainless wall hangers.
That's one thing I like with threaded pommels; you can take the pommel off, remove the grip, put some fresh epoxy, then reassemble and tighten it down. Peened pommels, unless you want to grind the peen out (which will shorten the grip slightly), only way I've seen is by removing the grip, separating the two pieces of the wood, then re-epoxy and reassemble the wood and re-grip it; same as you would if you had finished the sword blade and it had no grip on it. Only exception is a single piece handle would slide on before the pommel, but I've only seen two-piece grips; easy to route out a notch on two sides of a pair than to carve a thin long area down a single piece.
Short answer, don't worry about it. Especially if you aren't cutting with it.
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I do plan to cut with it eventually thats the only issue I have. Maybe I should have him send it back? I am not sure, my parents suggest doing it but they don't know much about how swords work thats why I am asking you guys. I am rather anxious about getting this sword though cause I have wanted it for years.
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I do plan to cut with it eventually thats the only issue I have. Maybe I should have him send it back? I am not sure, my parents suggest doing it but they don't know much about how swords work thats why I am asking you guys. I am rather anxious about getting this sword though cause I have wanted it for years.
Sir James was just suggesting that if you want it at DoK just have it sent to you and then you'll for sure have it for DoK, then just send it to Albion afterwards. The only drawback would be that you'd have to ship it to Albion yourself at a later date. The sword's not 'broken' it just needs some maintenance. It's really just the nature of wood and temp/humidity changes. The grip probably shrunk a little and pulled the epoxy away from the tang.
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I'm actually thinking of sending it back to them to antique the hilt a bit as well as fix the problem with the clicking. I prefer my stuff to look worn and used, especially for a 1100s sword being used in the late 1200s. Not sure if they'd do that but it's worth a try.
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I'm sure Mike would be glad to add the antiquing to your blade and I also agree with Sir James' suggestion. Just have the seller forward you the email he sent to Mike and attach it to your own email to Mike showing him the chain of ownership for the blade. As I understand it, Albion doesn't have any clauses to their warranties concerning the transference of ownership for their products.
The added benefit of taking possession of the sword for a few weeks during DOK is you can make your own wood core for the blade's scabbard and while it is away at Albion getting repaired and antiqued you can have the leather work done to complete your scabbard. ;)
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I agree that if you want it for DoK, I'd wait until afterward to send it back to Albion.
Really, there's very little to worry about structurally. All of the strength in the sword's construction comes from the metal parts. The pommel is peened onto the tang such that even if the grip came off, the pommel would remain in place. The guard won't move much, since it's tapped into place. If all of the epoxy failed (which is unlikely), the leather would have to unbind for the two wood grip pieces to come off, and even then all of the metal parts would still be in place. Chances are it's only a small piece of the epoxy that came loose.
What Albion will probably do is completely re-grip it.
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Payed for it, he is shipping it out today and I should be getting it soon. I am rather excited as this will be my first Albion Next Gen sword that I have wanted for a long while. Glad I nabbed it when I could with no wait time, now to get a scabbard done for it and whatnot. Still have to save up money for my trip to the UK I am taking next year so that may be a while.