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Title: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-10, 15:32:20
Michael Fassbender has signed on to play the lead...most likely Altair and/or Desmond.  I am officially excited- he'd be my first choice in the role.  He's got the presence, the athleticism and seems adept at Hollywood style swordsmanship (as seen in 300 and Centurion), the story itself is engaging and the setting is 1191AD, the Holy Land which should be a draw for those of us with the Crusading bent.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed_(film) (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed_(film))
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-07-10, 16:50:10
Nifty!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-10, 17:25:09

I've never played the games, but I'd go to see this, if done well enough.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-10, 18:04:27
Sir Edward, depending on how you view action/adventure games, you might really like this one.  The visuals, the mechanics, the story- this game is at or near the top in every category, in my not inconsiderable opinion of it.  The game has an overarching storyline, a modern day Assassin has to delve through his genetic memory to uncover certain artifacts his ancestors had discovered and put to use in three separate and distinct periods in history- namely the Third Crusade, the rise of the Borgias and this latest installment dealing with the American Revolution.  As you delve into these encoded memories, you take on the mantle of each ancestor during their respective time...personally, the overall story does nothing for me but further the idea of the struggle (Assassins versus Templars engaged in a secret war that has lasted nearly a thousand years), it is living through the ancestors where the game really shines.

As one who has adopted a Crusader persona, it was a gas to go hunting Templars in the likes of Jerusalem, Acre, Damascus and Masyaf, riding on horseback through the countryside on the way to each of those cities, encountering Crusaders, Templars as well as local soldiery and each city has its own guards that will accost you in addition to the aforementioned opponents- and the renderings of these environments, not to mention the sheer scale and verticality (you can climb to the top of any building you see and leap off) - the developers are on record with regard to the period authenticity for each locality.  I'm not inclined to disbelieve them.

AC II, Brotherhood and Revelations (three separate installments) deal with the exploits of a Renaissance ancestor toward the end of the 15th and beginning of the 16th centuries in Italy, Masyaf and later Constantinople (Revelations)...all beautifully rendered and in the later installments, some pretty intriguing gameplay.

The latest installment, AC3, due out in September, I think, deals with a forebear in America during the revolution...I can't wait for it to come out.

Within the story and gameplay is a running history of mythology dealing with the First Civilization and the rebellion of their created servants, the First People...which also ties in with the ancestors' origins, actions as well as the overarching story.  Overall, as far as stories go be it in video games, anime, or literature - it is the one of the best ones I've encountered thus far.  Whoever wrote it should make it into a book series.  It is that good.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-10, 18:39:27
It is, by far, my favorite game series ever. I *really* hope the movie makes it to fruition. I held onto hope that Onimusha would finally come out, for years. Sadly, it never did. :(

Assassin's Creed is fantastic. The storyline is phenomenal, especially with the way they tie in so many different aspects, and it *really* leaves you hanging in-between games. There's a *ton* of implicit / open-ended dialog and events in the game. There's a website that goes through all of the history, between multiple cultures, of what happens at the end of the first game (possibly the most mysterious of all endings).

When I beat the third one, it was around 3am and I had to work the next day. The ending left me so slack jawed, I sulked to the bedroom and proceeded to check the boards for other people's thoughts. And there was *a lot* of good theories. Then, when the last one came out, I took the week off work, waited in line for the midnight release ... and then finished it in less than 3 days. I literally did not sleep more than a few hours from start to finish. It lived up to everything I expected, and even things I didn't.

Sir Edward, I have the first 4 games, if you'd like to borrow them.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2012-07-10, 18:47:15
i played some of the first game. my nephew has all of them and loves them
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-10, 19:58:19

Wow, how many of them are there now?

You guys seriously don't want me to ever sleep again, don't you. :)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-10, 20:33:34
Assassins Creed III will be the fifth game of the series...AC II, Brotherhood and Revelations round out the Ezio trilogy...they are WELL worth the time it takes to play them.  It is easy to get caught up in side stuff though...especially in the later installments, where recruiting Assassins, sending them off on contracts, and even later...well, I don't want to ruin it for you, but lets just say there's a helluva lot to do in the later installments.

I'm more excited about there being an actual bow in this latest one than anything else...

Sir Edward, another cool aspect about these games is the interactions you have with key historical figures, for example- these are just a couple for each.
AC1 (1191AD): King Richard the Lionheart, Garnier de Naplus (Grandmasterof the Hospitalier Order), Robert de Sable (11th Grandmaster of the Knights Templar) and Sibrand (Grandmaster of the Teutonic Order).
AC2 (1476AD): Rodrigo Borgia, Leonardo da Vinci, Lorenzo de Medici
AC Brotherhood (1499AD): the Borgias, Caterina Sforza, Niccolo Macchiavelli
AC Revelations (1500AD-): Manuel Palialogos, Sakhulu, Suleiman the Magnificent

Each single player campaign will probably run you 10-15 hours depending on how deeply you delve into the side missions and other stuff...I generally end up putting in around 40 on each but man, it is well worth it.

Little stuff that comes in the later entries like rebuilding your stronghold gets upgraded to rebuilding the cities; the recruitment of Assassins not only affords you backup but can also be used to fill your coffers so you can outfit yourself with the latest upgrades in weapons and armor.

Mind you, the first one has none of the aforementioned minigames, but it is still my favorite one, simply because it is set during the Crusades, you get to hunt Templars that actually look like Templars, you bandy words with the Lionheart (and other luminaries of the time, like William of Montferrat) and you get to explore Jerusalem, Acre and Damascus.  Three areas where a self-styled Crusader historian would dearly love to visit but know better than to actually go there.  ;)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-10, 20:42:00

And they're on Steam....  Dangit. :)

First one is downloading now. :)

Maybe someday I'll get back to Mass Effect (I only got half-way through the first one before getting distracted). I keep finding other games.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-10, 21:05:40
Heh.  You're in for it now, Lord Commander!  I know nothing.

;)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Ian on 2012-07-10, 21:36:48
The newest one that will be coming out later this year I believe is slated for Revolutionary War America which will be an interesting direction for the games.  Sir Edward, I don't think you'll be disappointed!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2012-07-10, 21:38:44
ahahahaha
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-11, 14:09:58
The newest one that will be coming out later this year I believe is slated for Revolutionary War America which will be an interesting direction for the games.  Sir Edward, I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Indeed it is. October 30th. Even though the trilogy takes place during multiple different time periods, the Assassins vs Templars ties them together the entire way, and if you read enough of the story / back story, in a very, very interesting way. It's historical and "theoretically historical" at the same time, since for many of the questions, there are no answers.

Ubisoft (the AC makers) does *fantastic* cut scenes. GameTrailers gave the video at E3 these awards:

* Best Wii U Game
* Best PS3 Game
* Best Xbox 360 Game
* Best PC Game
* Best Action/Adventure Game
* Best of Show

Nice, eh? :D Here's the AC3 promo trailer:

Assassin's Creed 3 - E3 Official Trailer [UK] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pUhraVG7Ow#ws)

Sir Edward, the combat engine was of course enhanced in each game along the way. The first one is less "fluid" than the later games, so don't let that throw you off. The further into the series you get, the more ridiculously powerful they become, the deeper the story gets (since each builds off the previous), and the more engrossing it really becomes. If you're playing on Steam, and have a wired XBox360 controller, hook it up to the PC and you can use it just like a regular gamepad. I played through AC1 on PC the first time too. The setting for AC1 is probably my favorite, though.

I could probably talk for hours about how awesome I think the series is, but it'll never do it justice without playing through it. Then you could talk for hours .. days .. weeks .. months .. years .. about some of the philosophy, historical possibilities, and conspiracy theories that are all over the place in the game.  8)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-11, 14:10:40
Second post w/the other 4 games - it wouldn't let me put 5 youtube links in one post. Here's the promo/E3 videos for the first 4 games:

AC1
Assassin's Creed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-ClutaN_I#ws)

AC2
Assassins Creed 2 - Official E3 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVWhWsgHzKM#ws)

AC2: Brotherhood
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood E3 Trailer [North America] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNs4-kRLaE#ws)

AC2: Revelations
Assassin's Creed: Revelations - E3 2011 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPih_FSzw4#ws)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-11, 16:32:56
Thank you, Sir James...glad to see I'm not the only one raving about how good this game is.  Sir Edward, this game is best played with a console controller...once you start playing you'll note that it is most intuitive, the control schema- much like a puppeteer, but so much more rewarding.

I used to look for large numbers of guards and take them (and their reinforcements) on singlehandedly, just to see how many bodies I could stack up- until they stopped spawning in.  Somewhere around 40 or so...clogged up Acre's southern entrance to the wharves like that.  No intrinsic value to the gameplay, just pure awesome sauce to be able to pull it off and walk away!

I am as excited about the new AC as I am about the new GTA...and that's saying a lot since I've been a GTA head starting with GTA3 back in 2001 and am a huge fan of the franchise.  As far as I'm concerned, the AC series features the best overarching storyline I've ever seen in a game...even though the modern parts can take you out of the medieval/renaissance experience in the delving of the ancestral memories, you won't be disappointed.  The mythology created for the game is incredibly detailed- and if you think about it, no less plausible than some of the other ideological theories with regard to how we as humans came to be.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-11, 17:32:45

I actually don't much care for console controllers these days. I'll stick to keyboard/mouse, TYVM. :)

I played for about an hour last night... got up tot he point where you get demoted and lose all your stuff, and stopped there. It's definitely an interesting start, so I look forward to seeing where it goes.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-11, 18:17:27
When you get to the more complex button combos, a console controller really shines. Especially in the later games, when it's 2-3 buttons at a time for a single action. I played with a mouse and keyboard first, too (had it on my laptop) - I did fine until about halfway through the game. It's a lot more fluid with a controller in ways I can't explain. I can't play a FPS at a 4 year old's skill level with anything other than mouse and keyboard - and as you probably knew, I started back with Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, when there was no such thing as a mouse or strafing. So preferring a console controller is a big deal. But play a few hours with mouse and keyboard, then try a controller for a few, too. ;)

And, the game only gets more interesting from there. Exponentially so.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-07-11, 19:30:10
Michael Fassbender has signed on to play the lead...most likely Altair and/or Desmond.  I am officially excited- he'd be my first choice in the role.  He's got the presence, the athleticism and seems adept at Hollywood style swordsmanship (as seen in 300 and Centurion), the story itself is engaging and the setting is 1191AD, the Holy Land which should be a draw for those of us with the Crusading bent.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed_(film) (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed_(film))

Oh Sweet!!! :) I'll be waiting for that. They looking for casting extras???? I'd audition for Crusader-era role. Good update, Sir William. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-11, 19:38:36
Dane, if they were, please believe I would've mentioned that- and gone to the casting call too!  I've got my Crusader kit pretty much done, except for the maille chausses...can't seem to find a decent pair, you know?

Sir James...we are of an accord.  I play FPS on the consoles these days...but I still remember my time with Q3:Arena, Unreal Tournament, Counterstrike...those were the days...but for games like AC, you really want a controller.

Sir Edward, no joke...you'll find movement a deal more intuitive on a controller- and I know it is against everything you hold dear, but trust us on this one.  ;)

Edited to add:  apparently Fassbender's to play Desmond Miles...which means we may see more of the present-day stuff as opposed to the medieval aspect of Altair...unless he plays both roles (which I hope he does).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-07-11, 19:47:03
Dane, if they were, please believe I would've mentioned that- and gone to the casting call too!  I've got my Crusader kit pretty much done, except for the maille chausses...can't seem to find a decent pair, you know?

Sir James...we are of an accord.  I play FPS on the consoles these days...but I still remember my time with Q3:Arena, Unreal Tournament, Counterstrike...those were the days...but for games like AC, you really want a controller.

Sir Edward, no joke...you'll find movement a deal more intuitive on a controller- and I know it is against everything you hold dear, but trust us on this one.  ;)

Edited to add:  apparently Fassbender's to play Desmond Miles...which means we may see more of the present-day stuff as opposed to the medieval aspect of Altair...unless he plays both roles (which I hope he does).

Correct. I play the PC game versions of AC & I am struck on AC2 because of the fact I can't control my character in one scene to beat the computer controlled character. Grrrrrrr.  hindered me from finishing the game for many months.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-11, 20:02:07
Dane, which scenario is that in AC2?  Just curious.

Another little tidbit about Fassbender...he formed a production company, in the future they plan on doing a movie about CUCHULAINN!!!!!!

Done right, that would rock on so many levels!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-12, 00:27:18

OK, I'm going to try the console-style controller and see how it goes. It'll take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-07-12, 05:37:59
Dane, which scenario is that in AC2?  Just curious.

Another little tidbit about Fassbender...he formed a production company, in the future they plan on doing a movie about CUCHULAINN!!!!!!

Done right, that would rock on so many levels!

"Race for the rooftop in the plaza to the top of the church" (just after Enunzio & his brother have the fight scene). I can't beat him using the keyboard controls to the top bc jumping & climbing controls suck on PC in AC2.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-12, 12:09:53

I ended up picking up a Logitech F310 controller. The game recognizes it natively, so it was a snap to get started. It's taking some getting used to, but I'm not playing any worse than before.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-12, 13:40:14
Sir Edward...trust me, that controller's going to make the latter stages and games a breeze.  The face buttons all correspond to head, arms and legs...the left and right ones naturally the offhand and main hand.  It'll seem like second nature after a while, even if you're used to kbd/ms set up.

Dane...get the controller.  It isn't impossible to beat him in that stage, but as you're finding out- damn hard to do.  This game's optimized for the controller, even the PC version.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-12, 14:16:23

The problem I'm running into, is it'll say something like "Press button (6) to enter or exit combat".... but they're not numbered or labelled like that. So I have to press everything until I figure out which ones it's talking about. The easy ones are the weapon selector, and the head/feet/hands buttons. At least those are diamond-layouts that correspond to the HUD, and the latter are color coded.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-12, 14:34:16

The problem I'm running into, is it'll say something like "Press button (6) to enter or exit combat".... but they're not numbered or labelled like that. So I have to press everything until I figure out which ones it's talking about. The easy ones are the weapon selector, and the head/feet/hands buttons. At least those are diamond-layouts that correspond to the HUD, and the latter are color coded.


Yep, the head/hands/feet layout is very natural. This will probably help, if the controller you got is laid out like the XBox360 one:

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Controls (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Controls)

edit: google is my friend. that looks more PS3-ish, but you can map the buttons exactly the same in the options
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-07-12, 15:07:39

Yep, that looks like what it's doing. The right-side buttons are color-coded like the x-box controller, but have the PS3 symbols on them. It's just confusing when the tutorial pop-ups come up and it refers to "button 6" or "button 11".

Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-12, 20:58:46
If I remember right, the left trigger enters/exits combat, and the right trigger lets you sprint (and right trigger with A lets you tackle people while sprinting). I don't remember using them for anything else, since the face buttons are all context-sensitive for what action(s) they do.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed - The Movie
Post by: Sir William on 2012-07-12, 21:13:39
Sir Edward, once you get the hang of the controller, it will become very fluid.  Entering and exiting combat is the same as locking onto and releasing targets- alld handled by the left trigger.  It is possibly the best moveset I've ever played with...other games that try and use different setups for the same style of play are not as natural or intuitive.

That this guy has no super powers or god-like weapons, just an incredible grasp of parkour before there ever was such, and of course, being a deadly swordsman make him one of the best and most memorable characters in any game.  Once you learn counter-kills, you'll really start with the bloodletting.  At least, I sure did. 

I like it when guards get pushy, talk trash to ya...don't feel at all bad about shoving the hidden blade into his stomach (or back), or using the curved dagger to dispatch your foes, or the longsword- each weapon has different kill animations depending on how you've taken him down and in what respect you're facing when you do it.

Of them all, the curved dagger is probably the coolest but ymmv.  I'm glad I'm not a complete badass like him...I'd be insufferable!  ;)