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Another movie to keep in mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_(movie) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_(movie))
It is on my Amazon list, along with Ironclad and Black Death. I'll let you know how it is after I've viewed it.
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i saw it. did i finish it? no. it was kinda boring. no it was relly boring.
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Really? Damn...wish I'd seen this first before I went and bought it. What was so boring? Lack of action?
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no there was tons of action. but it was 1 guy chained to a pole vs people. i dunno if it got any better, i got bored after the forth or twelfth butchering. no real plot in the beginning to hold me to it
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Ahhh...ok, a good popcorn movie then. I like Mads Mikkelsen tho...worth a watch. I like gratuitous violence for its own sake sometimes.
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DVRed it on IFC the other night. I'll let you know what I think soon.
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So I saw this a couple of weekends ago...I think it was Sir Brian who told me that I should watch it anyway even though it seems no one enjoyed it. It did get a little 'out there' with the symbolism and I never understood why he just gave in and let the natives kill him at the end...was that to be his final sought-after release?
This movie was so gritty I almost didn't want to watch it...there's no joy in it and I guess that was the point.
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Worst. Movie. Ever. >:(
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I must disagree with you Red Knight! In the name of the King was the worst movie of the whole fantasy/medieval/sword & sorcery genre EVER! ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale)
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I must disagree with you Red Knight! In the name of the King was the worst movie of the whole fantasy/medieval/sword & sorcery genre EVER! ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale)
haahhaahah naaaa i laughed all the way thru that one...wait, it wasnt a comedy?
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I must disagree with you Red Knight! In the name of the King was the worst movie of the whole fantasy/medieval/sword & sorcery genre EVER! ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King:_A_Dungeon_Siege_Tale)
No, I have to disagree with you there, Sir Brian. No...the worst medieval-themed movie I ever saw was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_and_the_Book_of_Beasts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_and_the_Book_of_Beasts)
HORRID. From the mix of arms and armor to the acting and action sequences, this movie failed on ALL counts.
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Wow, some of these sound awful.
So far the most painful to watch for me were "Druids" (with Christopher Lambert), and "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" with Sean Connery. Druids was by far the worse movie.
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Yea, I saw snippets of Druids and I guess my choice was wise in not continuing to view it. I actually have that second one...and I bought it because I remembered seeing it as a kid- but a lot of the comedy was lost on me, all I saw was knights in armor and you know how that goes. So I sat down to watch it after a lot of years had gone by since seeing it last...funny how time and perception can take a beloved memory and turn it into something akin to dross. Which is what that movie was, now that I'm old enough to know.
Even so, Merlin and the Book of Beasts was by far worse. I have that as well and will gladly curse any of you with it if you so desire, just let me know and I'll bring it with me to our next gathering. lol
I will say this- M&BoB's depiction of Merlin clad in armor wielding a staff (battlemage anyone?) was initially more interesting than any of the previous iterations of Merlin...too bad the entire movie fell so far short of that potential.
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Another movie to keep in mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_(movie) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_(movie))
It is on my Amazon list, along with Ironclad and Black Death. I'll let you know how it is after I've viewed it.
I saw this movie a while ago & thought it was 'weird' (as least story wise). Didn't really get into it.
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I saw this movie. not superb and not bed just time pass... :P
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My thoughts on Valhalla Rising? Dark, depressing, odd.
As for terrible medieval-esque movies? Season of the Witch, ranks up there as one of the worst. As does the made for TV movie Joan of Arc with Leelee Sobieski. Terrible acting, terrible casting, horrendously distorted storyline. A bomb in my book. BUT, I still watch it as there are so few medieval style movies out there that it quenches my thirst once in a great while.
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BUT, I still watch it as there are so few medieval style movies out there that it quenches my thirst once in a great while.
That's almost a tag line for most of the movies I watch too. :)
Historical aside, I enjoyed Season of the Witch. I found Black Death darker and closer to historical, but enjoyed it less. It's a heck of a mind-messer, though!
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Valhalla Rising is one of my favorite films, though certainly not for storyline or historical significance. But for its scenery, camera-work, and general atmosphere.
Black Death is another favorite.... One of my favorite scenes of any film is when the stocky, bald warrior is being tempted by a village maiden (who may or may not be a witch). She asks if he sits alone because he is shy. His reply: "I'm married; and i am a Christian - so pi$$ off." Not the most chivalric retort, but it got the job done.
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I enjoyed Season of the Witch, but only for what it was-- more of a "historical" fantasy. It was OK, not fantastic.
I haven't found many that I thought were a true waste of my time. I've gotten rather numb to the historical flaws, and just assume they're all more fantasy than anything else.
Something I thought was quite good though was The Name of the Rose, with Sean Connery.
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i loved that movie (name of the rose) also check out robin and marion. both great sean connery flicks
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I haven't found many that I thought were a true waste of my time.
"Your Highness". Horrible, mildly redeemable for "hot ladies", but the movie was terrible.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_Table_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_Table_(film))
This glorious gem was on cable yesterday. I loved this movie ever since I was a kid. What is really a surprise is now that I’m better informed; I observed that the heraldry displayed in the movie was pretty authentic in that they followed the laws of heraldry quite closely. The armor was believable and plausible for the early 14th century impression of the Arthurian legends. Of course the sword play was atypical of Hollywood ‘Errol Flynn’ style, but it was still enjoyable. :)
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actually had real mail armour too on some guys. check out Kind richard and the crusades and the crusades. great 2 flicks as well!!
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I enjoyed Season of the Witch, but only for what it was-- more of a "historical" fantasy. It was OK, not fantastic.
I haven't found many that I thought were a true waste of my time. I've gotten rather numb to the historical flaws, and just assume they're all more fantasy than anything else.
Something I thought was quite good though was The Name of the Rose, with Sean Connery.
'The Name of the Rose' by Umberto Eco is probably my favorite novel of all time, Sir Edward. The movie is great, with truly inspired actors, but you must read the book if you haven't. I read it in college and that pretty much sealed the decision to change major to Medieval Studies.
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I just had the opportunity to catch The Name of the Rose this past weekend. Excellent film! The setting and atmosphere were captured so well. I have Eco's Foucault's Pendulum sitting on a shelf, but have not read it or Name of the Rose. I may have to do so now.
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I haven't found many that I thought were a true waste of my time.
"Your Highness". Horrible, mildly redeemable for "hot ladies", but the movie was terrible.
You're right, that one was terrible. That one wasted my time.
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Not exactly a movie but I love the History Channel's "The Crusades: Cross & the Crescent". Thoughts?? :)
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MRL did all of the costumes and armour, that should tell you enough right there :(
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MRL did all of the costumes and armour, that should tell you enough right there :(
Not a fan of it, Sir Wolf???
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So the costumes, arms and armor may not have been completely historically accurate, but I'm sure they had budget concerns so they went with what was the best bang for the buck. MRL's not horrible, just that it is more anachronistic than historic- keep that in mind and you're good.
I've gotta get my copy of the re-released Arn: Knight Templar from Amazon, looking forward to that!
Your Highness was funny, crass and boorish funny, but funny nonetheless. As I'm a Natalie Portman fan, any movie she's taking her clothes off is reason enough for me to watch it. lol
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I am the new guy here and this is my first post. I liked the first part of "Valhalla Rising" but the second part was a little out there. I enjoyed " Season of the Witch", but its far from accurate. "Black Death" was another I liked. And finally , I want to sue the producer of "Iron Clad" and get back the $10 and two hrs of my life lost on that.
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You really didn't like Ironclad? - Why? It was reasonably accurate both with the armor and weapon usage and nominally close to actual historic events. ???
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I thought going into Iron Clad I would really like it. It just fell short all the way around. Having James Porfoy and Paul Giamanti I figured it would be much better. I am disappointed with most movies that are supposed to be "based on a historic event". We can pick apart every movie , what is corect and was isn't, but they usually ruin the story or change it because they feel it's more dramatic. Real history is pretty dramatic and usually far better than the fictionalized versions we see.
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lol~
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I thought it was great; as I have often said, if you look for historicity in Hollywood, you will forever be disappointed. If it were a documentary, I'd call it to task as well, but its just a movie, made for entertainment purposes only.
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I suppose I would have liked it better if I had seen it having lower expectations.
Ridley Scott's "Robin Hood" has been one of my least favorite versions of RH because Scott kept talking about how historically acurate it was and that it would be the definitve RH. I think it was more how not to make a RH movie.
When "Knights Tale" came out , I thought it was serious movie. Thankfully I read the reviews before I saw it. I went into it knowing it was anachronistic and fun. I really liked that movie. I probably would have been very negative had I saw it thinking it was suppose to be a serious movie.
Maybe I need to go back and watch Iron Clad with a less critical eye.
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haahhhhaha a man after my own heart lol
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I thought it was great; as I have often said, if you look for historicity in Hollywood, you will forever be disappointed. If it were a documentary, I'd call it to task as well, but its just a movie, made for entertainment purposes only.
Perhaps the biggest key to enjoying medieval themed movies ... Movie vs Documentary. If you look for history in a movie, you're going to have a bad time. :)
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I thought it was great; as I have often said, if you look for historicity in Hollywood, you will forever be disappointed. If it were a documentary, I'd call it to task as well, but its just a movie, made for entertainment purposes only.
Perhaps the biggest key to enjoying medieval themed movies ... Movie vs Documentary. If you look for history in a movie, you're going to have a bad time. :)
Well stated Sir James. I watch movies for the entertainment value not the historical depiction which tends to be lacking or have something added to it for sensationalism. Documentaries are preferred for factual reference or academic research. But both tend to have a touch of Hollywood.
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I thought it was great; as I have often said, if you look for historicity in Hollywood, you will forever be disappointed. If it were a documentary, I'd call it to task as well, but its just a movie, made for entertainment purposes only.
Perhaps the biggest key to enjoying medieval themed movies ... Movie vs Documentary. If you look for history in a movie, you're going to have a bad time. :)
I should make that my sig line considering how often I've said it. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you're looking for that.
With that said, I find it somewhat odd that he liked Season of the Witch (which was absolutely horrible, special effects aside); Black Death was a gritty medieval horror but nothing about it was historic, except for the plague which also named the movie...I actually liked it for the ambience. I liked Scott's RH too...again, nothing to do with historicity and everything to do with watching a good movie.
My favorite RH is the Kevin Costner one...that in itself would probably get me drummed right on out of a medieval society if I actually believed any of it. Who is to say that one or the other has the right of it when they can't even prove he actually existed? As far as I was concerned, Scott's RH had most of the principal characters, and I didn't mind the changing of the backstory (instead of being noble-born he's a commoner, but that's fitting) and I thought the setpiece battles were pretty good...altho you could tell Oscar Isaac had never really ridden before- at least not ride and wield a sword but hey, its a movie.
I liked A Knight's Tale too...I've seen it a few times, I like the jousting scenes, and I'm a big James Purefoy fan.
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To me, the definitive Robin Hood was the old '80s "Robin of Sherwood" series from the BBC. :)
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Nostalgic to watch now, isn't it? It is rare that I find a show that I loved as a kid to still have that 'hold' over me...having never seen it, Sir Edward, I couldn't attest to that but if you still love it, it gives it merit in my eyes.