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Title: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-21, 17:53:38
I've always found documents like these both hilarious and frightening. Hilarious just in what these people say about women (look at Chapter VI) but yet frightening that they actually thought this way and acted on it.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/mm/ (http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/mm/)
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2014-03-22, 01:22:24
Yikes!
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-23, 04:40:20
I believe William Pen was a judge in America and a witch case was brought to him. They accused her of flying a broom stick. He responded "there is no law against riding a broom stick at night" Good old Pen, keeping that nonsense out of PA, wish Salem could say the same :P
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Stanislaw on 2014-03-23, 04:49:00
Ah, the dreaded Malleus Maleficarum! Unfortunately one of the most horrible propaganda pieces of the Middle Ages. :( I've studied it a bit in my Medieval Heresy and Witchcraft course at my college.

It's quite interesting to note that witchcraft was not really noted as heresy until around the century of this manuscript, nor was it actually considered a crime (most of the time - certain sorts of "darker" sorcery/witchcraft were still looked down upon). "Magical" knowledge was quite a common thing back in the day, and even inquisitors possessed such knowledge and sometimes even practiced it.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-03-24, 00:56:17
Ah, the dreaded Malleus Maleficarum! Unfortunately one of the most horrible propaganda pieces of the Middle Ages. :( I've studied it a bit in my Medieval Heresy and Witchcraft course at my college.

Your college is SO much cooler than mine was
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Don Jorge on 2014-03-24, 13:17:50
That is what you get for going to a private for-profit college (you went to Strayer right?)

I was a history major in college and had some amazing teachers and classes ranging from medieval saints and martyrdom to terrorism in the mind of God...I miss college...
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-24, 13:39:54
With the exception of Medieval Russian History, my college's history dept. was devoted to modern American and European History, particularly colonial history.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2014-03-24, 17:58:26
Dang non-Nevada colleges and their good professors.

I had to teach my English professor why we capitalize and I had a Philosophy professor that had never heard of Taoism, Sun Tsu, or Bruce Lee. Also I had a Wold Religion Prof who was surprised the Atheists knew the most about religion.

Is it a wonder that we consistently rank in the bottom 10 states for ejumakashun?
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-03-24, 20:03:38
Ah, the dreaded Malleus Maleficarum! Unfortunately one of the most horrible propaganda pieces of the Middle Ages. :( I've studied it a bit in my Medieval Heresy and Witchcraft course at my college.

Your college is SO much cooler than mine was

Seriously.  I might have studied harder, back in the day, if we had classes about sorcery and witchcraft. ;)

Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir William on 2014-03-26, 12:22:52
Ah, the dreaded Malleus Maleficarum! Unfortunately one of the most horrible propaganda pieces of the Middle Ages. :( I've studied it a bit in my Medieval Heresy and Witchcraft course at my college.

Your college is SO much cooler than mine was

Seriously.  I might have studied harder, back in the day, if we had classes about sorcery and witchcraft. ;)

Right!  Would've looked forward to going to that class!
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Stanislaw on 2014-03-26, 17:04:39
Ah, the dreaded Malleus Maleficarum! Unfortunately one of the most horrible propaganda pieces of the Middle Ages. :( I've studied it a bit in my Medieval Heresy and Witchcraft course at my college.

Your college is SO much cooler than mine was

Seriously.  I might have studied harder, back in the day, if we had classes about sorcery and witchcraft. ;)

Right!  Would've looked forward to going to that class!

Yeah, that class has been quite enjoyable so far. Nevertheless, our professor actually specializes in Early Modern French society studies. There is one professor at Reed who does handle Early Medieval art and illuminated manuscript studies, though, and I hope to join in on his class the next time that it's offered. Strangely, Reed has an immense amount of such books packed into its library.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-26, 20:17:52
Strangely enough we touched on this document in my History of Medicine class. Now that was one of the most interesting classes I ever took (alongside the History of Entertainment in America).
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-27, 00:41:28
I may look Into that for college.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-27, 01:43:29
I may look Into that for college.

Avoid a history degree like the plague. Yeah it's fascinating and fun (and also quite tough deoending on the program), but if you want a job within a year of graduating, you're better off with something else. Many of my fellow history graduates that I know are still unemployed. I got very lucky and only got my job through connections. Liberal Arts are enlightening, but sadly they don't pay off loans and bills.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-03-27, 02:15:51
I may look Into that for college.

Avoid a history degree like the plague. Yeah it's fascinating and fun (and also quite tough deoending on the program), but if you want a job within a year of graduating, you're better off with something else. Many of my fellow history graduates that I know are still unemployed. I got very lucky and only got my job through connections. Liberal Arts are enlightening, but sadly they don't pay off loans and bills.

Ugh...isn't that the sad truth.... :-\
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-27, 02:30:33
I may look Into that for college.

Avoid a history degree like the plague. Yeah it's fascinating and fun (and also quite tough deoending on the program), but if you want a job within a year of graduating, you're better off with something else. Many of my fellow history graduates that I know are still unemployed. I got very lucky and only got my job through connections. Liberal Arts are enlightening, but sadly they don't pay off loans and bills.

Ugh...isn't that the sad truth.... :-\

I already have a sustaining job as a tree worker, great money, hard work, makes me enjoy coming home to a nice stew. I plan to keep this job as long as I can. Plus, I get a good workout in lol. Maybe I like the job so much because it makes me feel like a woodsmen from the medieval era, except with chainsaws and trucks.

EDIT: Booming family business, so I'm not likely to loose this job :)
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Stanislaw on 2014-03-27, 03:02:37
I may look Into that for college.

Avoid a history degree like the plague. Yeah it's fascinating and fun (and also quite tough deoending on the program), but if you want a job within a year of graduating, you're better off with something else. Many of my fellow history graduates that I know are still unemployed. I got very lucky and only got my job through connections. Liberal Arts are enlightening, but sadly they don't pay off loans and bills.

If I may ask, what job did you get?
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-27, 12:51:00
Strangely enough I do Software Support.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-03-27, 13:11:33

You can always bypass college and become a programmer. :)
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Don Jorge on 2014-03-27, 17:07:11
Yeah my history degree got me a few odd jobs...started innocently enough...

High School History and Criminal Justice teacher...

College Admissions Officer...

Security Guard while working on my Masters...

Ran a presidential campaign office in North Carolina for 2012 Election...

Legal consultant....

Also working on social media and community manager for a political consulting firm on the side...it might turn into more down the road...need to brush up on my SQL and database management.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir William on 2014-03-27, 17:12:56

You can always bypass college and become a programmer. :)

Yea, who needs the manual anyway?  ;)
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-27, 20:02:07
Is it sad that I'm part of a generation that should know everything about electronics and I can hardly figure out how to use a computer, save turning on and using the internet. In fact I even had trouble trying to run WoW...
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2014-03-27, 21:12:50
Is it sad that I'm part of a generation that should know everything about electronics and I can hardly figure out how to use a computer, save turning on and using the internet. In fact I even had trouble trying to run WoW...

If it is sad, then I'm sad right along with you. For a while I could keep up with it, but anymore it just seems like it's advancing faster and faster and I'm just falling farther and farther behind. Shoot, I've only had the internet for about five years or so. :P
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-27, 21:45:53
I can keep up, but it's such things like coding, programming, and understanding the subtle workings of a computer that has me stumped
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-28, 04:09:36
I can keep up, but it's such things like coding, programming, and understanding the subtle workings of a computer that has me stumped

Its THE universal language, but one only few speak compared to the surplus population.

Some say we are coming to the singular age, but that frightens me a bit. As long as it can't create things I'll be fine. I am cool with AIs though.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2014-03-28, 04:20:14
ANY four year degree is better than none.  Many of you know I had a lengthy period of unemployment and underemployment in the not too distant past.  Even landing an interview in my field of property / facility management was nearly impossible as I don’t have a four degree in anything.

My sobering facts:
14 years of experience managing 1.5 million square feet of properties
Left company on good terms
Professional references aplenty
NO 4 year degree
300 job applications both on-line and in person
15 months unemployed / underemployed
5 interviews
1 job offer

Thank goodness that job offer was the job of my dreams.  So as to not be caught in that position ever again, I’m currently completing a professional certification through the University of Minnesota and completing a second professional certification through our state industry trade organization.  Once those are complete (mid 2015), I’ll complete the 1.5 years left of my undergraduate degree.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Mike W. on 2014-03-28, 13:26:30
Congrats on that!! I've always had the deepest respect for people who push themselves to go back to school. Somehow they manage to get a degree while working and taking care of a family. If I had to do that while studying history it would have been a lot harder.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Don Jorge on 2014-03-28, 13:43:32
ANY four year degree is better than none.  Many of you know I had a lengthy period of unemployment and underemployment in the not too distant past.  Even landing an interview in my field of property / facility management was nearly impossible as I don’t have a four degree in anything.

My sobering facts:
14 years of experience managing 1.5 million square feet of properties
Left company on good terms
Professional references aplenty
NO 4 year degree
300 job applications both on-line and in person
15 months unemployed / underemployed
5 interviews
1 job offer

Thank goodness that job offer was the job of my dreams.  So as to not be caught in that position ever again, I’m currently completing a professional certification through the University of Minnesota and completing a second professional certification through our state industry trade organization.  Once those are complete (mid 2015), I’ll complete the 1.5 years left of my undergraduate degree.

Aye, my wife is in the same boat. At 18 years old she took a job in the non profit sector and worked abroad in England for 8 years doing youth ministry and community organizing/event planning. She got a job at an IT firm doing Marketing for 2 years here in Raleigh when she got back and when they merged with another company became redundant. She is having the hardest time even getting interviews because she doesn't have a degree!
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-03-28, 15:00:13
Is it sad that I'm part of a generation that should know everything about electronics and I can hardly figure out how to use a computer, save turning on and using the internet. In fact I even had trouble trying to run WoW...

There's some truth to that. As computers get easier to use, there's less of a need to learn their inner workings in order to use one (and the inner workings get more and more complicated over time). I think it's getting harder to just pick up a book and learn to program.
Title: Re: She's a witch! Burn her!!!
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-03-30, 14:31:53
Must have still been a valid document during the salem witch trials.