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Title: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-04-04, 13:46:53
Has anyone looked at these?

http://www.alcheminc.com/spadone.html (http://www.alcheminc.com/spadone.html)

I've been wanting a Spadone trainer. These are pretty affordable, but I know nothing about how durable or balanced they are. they're about half the price of the A&A model:

http://armor.com/train234.html (http://armor.com/train234.html)

Of course, with A&A I know I'd be getting an excellent product. I've never handled an Alchem piece that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-04-04, 17:38:25
No experience with them but I know that a lot of folks over at the Archive have.
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-04-05, 19:10:28
That's a tall sword, or a short lady. Either way, I want a spadone eventually, too. Ken Mondschein recently posted video of him and someone else training with them. Never heard of Alchem before, though
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-04-05, 19:58:43

Yep, that's where I heard of Alchem. When he posted the video, someone asked where they got the trainers.

Here's the video for those who haven't seen it:

Spadone Fencing: Higgins Academy of the Sword (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRyhtMz44Y#)
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-04-26, 18:30:46
Yep, that is the video, I watched the entire video and it is quite amazing how even a 5 to 6 foot longsword can be swung with effective speed and momentum. 

The swords seem to work fine when matched together, however I believe Greg Mele stated that the Alchem blades are a bit wobbly (I'm not sure what type of blades he was referring to) and are exceptional but not the best out there. 

Apart from this, I think Alchem is another good resource to get exceptional steel trainers.
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-04-26, 19:20:12

I wonder what he meant by "wobbly". If he meant that they wobble in the hilt, then yeah, I think that's a bad thing. If they're just whippy/flexy, a lot of the historical originals were like that.

I'd expect the A&A model to be higher quality, but of course you end up paying for that.
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-04-26, 19:28:19
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I wonder what he meant by "wobbly". If he meant that they wobble in the hilt, then yeah, I think that's a bad thing. If they're just whippy/flexy, a lot of the historical originals were like that.

Yep, I have the same question in mind, I think I saw on the Sword Forum International Forum.  Historic originals don't lie when it comes to exceptions such as authentic "whippy/flexy" blades.  :)

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I'd expect the A&A model to be higher quality, but of course you end up paying for that.

I agree, only I would be paying full price for a custom Spadone since I'm a short Knight in Training.  ;)
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-04-26, 19:38:04
I agree, only I would be paying full price for a custom Spadone since I'm a short Knight in Training.  ;)

I guess you could get the Montante and call it a Spadone. :)
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-04-26, 19:42:19
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I guess you could get the Montante and call it a Spadone.

I could yes, since my interest is in Bolognese Spadone fighting (or Bolognese Longsword if you wish)  as opposed to the Portugese Montante fighting, that is why I'm aiming at the Spadone specifically.

In as much I can take a 45' Longsword and wield it like a Spadone/Montante  :)
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Sir William on 2012-04-26, 21:02:51
Wow, now that's a long sword.  Thankfully well outside my period of interest.  lol
Title: Re: Alchem Spadone Trainers
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-04-26, 21:20:20
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Wow, now that's a long sword.  Thankfully well outside my period of interest.  lol

Lol!  Indeed!   :D