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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #1 on: 2011-01-15, 16:13:49 »
I've always thought they'd at least have a "collar" liner to hold the mail upright. I haven't seen a pic of the one where it has the dagged edges at the bottom ... interesting find.
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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #2 on: 2011-01-17, 03:57:35 »

I suspect mail was lined and tied a lot more often than we think.
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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #3 on: 2011-01-19, 16:18:32 »
It would make sense...steel against naked skin is only sexy when there's romance involved; in battle armor its like you're just asking for it.

In reading Cornwell's books, he makes a case of wearing fitted leather garments that have been greased underneath plate armor so that there's no pinching and the plates can shift about w/out chafing the skin its supposed to be protecting.  But he never really mentions anything about padded undergarments or gambesons- almost as if they didn't exist or maybe they just didn't exist for him.  He seems to have gotten most of the other stuff correct.  He also mentions leather-backed mail on more than one occasion...and that would seem to make sense to me too.  But its just historical fiction- so naturally you take it with a grain of salt but a lot of what he'd written just seemed right to me.
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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #4 on: 2011-01-19, 21:24:39 »
You know considering I will have a spiffy new surcoat, it would help keep it clean if I make some kind of liner for my aventail so it won't mess it up!  :-\


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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #5 on: 2011-01-19, 21:33:37 »
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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #6 on: 2011-01-20, 02:19:43 »
Interesting, but I think I'll just stick with getting an aventail for now. :-)

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Re: 14th century aventails.. they seem to have been lined
« Reply #7 on: 2011-01-20, 15:45:57 »
Yes I would have thought they were padded underneath. It explains the perfect sweeping shape to the aventails on the illustrations and effigies of the period.

These guys do a nice range in padded accessories. They trade at the Agincourt event and the quality is very good.

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