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Need Advice Regarding SCA Combat
« on: 2017-05-17, 23:31:41 »
This is something that has been bothering me for awhile, and was actually one of the reasons I joined this forum. I'm not sure if this is something that is considered ok to ask, but here goes wall of text incoming.
I've been interested in SCA armored combat since I walked by my local groups defender tournament last year, but my progress towards getting on the field has been painfully slow. Most of the issue is that compared to the other fighters in my barony I am something of an outlier. I am short and skinny with a body built for speed and precision hits, on the other hand most of the fighters are a good head or two taller than me, with a focus on strength and attrition based fighting.
I've been able to get close enough fitting loaner armor a few times, and every time I get out on the practice field I simply cannot make the local style fit with my body. The local preference is for the "iron chicken" stance with a large viking round shield, and no stabs. When I try to do as I am shown I have severe difficulty generating power from just my arm. What feels right to me is to stand off center from my opponent with my shield side foot pointed at them, and my shield slightly angled with the edge towards them, sword over my shoulder, and using the rotation of my core to generate the power for the shot. I've tried to do this with loaner shields, but every time I wind up hurting my wrist trying to hold the viking rounds in this manner.
The other issue I've been having has been with getting proper gear. I've had to make my own for the most part because finding used armor even close to my size has been next to impossible, and buying it has been out of my college student price range for all but the most essential items (helmet and gauntlets). so I've spent the past year working on my kit at a local makerspace to try to have something worthwhile. but this delay has left me feeling rather fake.
I feel like an impostor, saying that I want to be a fighter, but not actually getting out on the field. People ask me if I'm interested in fighting and I say yes because it is true, but I still feel fake, like some miles gloriosus in a period play. I say I want to fight, then I'm told there is loaner armor, and I politely turn it down. Not because I'm not interested in fighting, but because if I wear that loaner armor and try to throw a shot the poor fit and heavy shield is going to sprain my wrists again. I don't have the stomach to tell the other fighters why. Here they are offering to let me use their armor, how can I insult them by telling them that their perfectly good armor won't work for me?
I said that this was one of the reasons I joined the forums, and this is why, I'm ashamed to bring this up in the facebook groups, I'm ashamed to mention that I am struggling. I don't really know if this is the same thing most new fighters go through, and I'm ashamed to bring it up if it isn't.
I'm not positing this to whine or to complain, that won't solve anything, I need advice, on any of this. what should I do? should I stay on the sidelines until my armor is finished? should I try to use a different style to the other fighters? should I let my barony know about my issues with the loaner armor? please, any advice you have on the topic would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Need Advice Regarding SCA Combat
« Reply #1 on: 2017-05-20, 05:02:52 »
Start by not saying "ashamed".  We all struggle at times, especially when just starting out.  In the 80's (yes, I'm old) my loaner armour sucked hind tit.  It was ill fitting and actually hurt to wear.  Getting to where you want to be will take some time; enjoy the ride. You'll look back on it with fondness in 30 years, I promise you.   ;)

You are not an "impostor". If you want to fight, you'll be a fighter. Just because everyone else in your area is doing "X", doesn't mean you have to. Find something that works for you.

There's a ton of Viking personalities, armour, and fighting in Minnesota. I found that I really like the mid 14th century and the poleaxe. Find your own thing and be different.

It will take time (and money), but that will come.  As a college student in the late 80's and early 90's I had NO money.  I could barely pay for my share of the gas and beer when we traveled to Iowa and Wisconsin.  The point is to have fun and hit friends with sticks.   :)
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Re: Need Advice Regarding SCA Combat
« Reply #2 on: 2017-05-22, 02:36:02 »
Gimme a day. When I can brain again I promise to give a good reply. :)
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Re: Need Advice Regarding SCA Combat
« Reply #3 on: 2017-05-29, 02:12:40 »
Sorry for the delay. So first off here is a playlist I made talking about WMA & SCA combat. It should help-
Aspie Sean & Western Martial Arts playlist.
S.C.A. & WMA/HEMA playlist.

Second- BOO! Evil Posta de Pollo di Ferro!

Now for the rest...
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Here they are offering to let me use their armor, how can I insult them by telling them that their perfectly good armor won't work for me?

If you do not tell them the truth how can they help?

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what should I do?

Don't give up. Also join the SCA Heavy Combat group on Facebook.

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should I stay on the sidelines until my armor is finished?

No, get out, work the pell. Do slow work in helm with sword & shield.

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should I try to use a different style to the other fighters?


YES! Would some of my fighting video's and a link to some great fighting vid channels + some good instructional vids help?

Here is a link to my fighting vids playlist Sean's Fighting Vids.

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should I let my barony know about my issues with the loaner armor?

Of course!


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