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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #30 on: 2014-08-18, 03:28:48 »
Everyone on this forum is very helpful and will go out of their way to give you tips.  The most important of which is “take your time.”  You may have money burning a hole in your pocket, but resist the urge to splurge.  Take a step back, look around, talk to people locally, find an SCA group, find a HEMA group, and put together a plan.  Read books from your local library, on line, or borrow from a friend.  There are great reference lists on this forum as well as others.  I know it doesn’t sound exciting, but the end result will be better.   :)

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #31 on: 2014-08-18, 12:36:20 »
Everyone on this forum is very helpful and will go out of their way to give you tips.  The most important of which is “take your time.”  You may have money burning a hole in your pocket, but resist the urge to splurge.  Take a step back, look around, talk to people locally, find an SCA group, find a HEMA group, and put together a plan.  Read books from your local library, on line, or borrow from a friend.  There are great reference lists on this forum as well as others.  I know it doesn’t sound exciting, but the end result will be better.   :)

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As mentioned previously, definitely check out Sir Ian's and Sir James' posts in the Armory concerning buying armor. They're an excellent source of information. And don't be afraid to ask questions. We have folks here that know their way around SCA, Living History, armor in general, and all kinds of other topics. You're in good hands here. :)

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #32 on: 2014-08-18, 15:01:36 »

Wow yes, taking time and avoiding splurging. That's a great tip, but one that is hard to follow.

We all end up with a drawer (or room) full of stuff we don't use anymore, because we didn't know better when we bought it. ;)
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #33 on: 2014-08-18, 15:07:33 »
That is unless you are one of those blessed individuals with “unlimited” income! ;)
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #34 on: 2014-08-18, 15:14:36 »
That is unless you are one of those blessed individuals with “unlimited” income! ;)

Then you end up with a house full of stuff you don't use anymore. And then a storage unit. ;)
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #35 on: 2014-08-18, 16:15:08 »
This is one reason I live in a very small space, so that I have to be careful what I buy. Otherwise I end up with way more than I need. And looks from hubby. That and I have to be very careful with funds anyway so it is a natural barrier. :D a frustrating one but one none the less.

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #36 on: 2014-08-18, 17:44:55 »
That is unless you are one of those blessed individuals with “unlimited” income! ;)

Then you end up with a house full of stuff you don't use anymore. And then a storage unit. ;)

How did you know Ed?? LOL :P
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #37 on: 2014-08-18, 19:07:17 »
Thanks for all the links. Been spending this morning reading them. I might have a good conclusion soon. At least I hope so.

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #38 on: 2014-08-18, 19:36:03 »
I can't find a place and time that I would use. I want as much leg, neck, head, and hand protection but I also really want to use a shield. So I don't really care much for metal over my chest but definitely my legs and spine, so I want to have a strap on my shield so i can cover my back when I'm not using it. Also I don't want to draw my sword from my waist but rather my back.

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #39 on: 2014-08-19, 02:31:21 »
I think a mid 14th century kit is your best bet for what your looking for. You may like splinted armor and a coat of plates. But some forms of plate did exsist too. As for the sword on the back though... It is very impractical and not used very often. I believe there was a conversation on the forum at one point on the disadvantages of a sword on your back, or, any weapon at that. Not recommended.
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #40 on: 2014-08-19, 02:49:46 »
Back scabbards are generally a fantasy trope and have little basis in history.  There are some random examples in Asian cultures of swords on the back,  but they're usually secured by a belt at the waist, not actually strapped to the back, and even then they usually have to rotate the whole scabbard around their body to a position that allows the sword to be drawn.  It's all but impossible to draw a sword bigger than a toothpick from a scabbard strapped to the back without some very bizarre designs.  There's also no evidence for it in medieval Europe.  Even the exceptionally large zweihanders of the 16th century are almost always depicted in woodcuts and various media as just being slung over the shoulder and held in the hand.

TL;DR - if you're after a historical kit, no back scabbards.

It sounds like you may be leaning toward a fantasy flare with your kit ideas though, which is fine.  But even then, a back scabbard is very impractical in real life.
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #41 on: 2014-08-19, 03:06:43 »
Use forum resources such as Modern Chivalry, myArmoury, and Armour Archive as secondary or tertiary sources.  Explore posts that reference, and link, to primary sources.  Much is said on public forums without citation.  Look up those primary citations, read them for yourself, and make an informed decision.

Discussions regarding the “sword on the back” thing are easy to locate using the various forum search functions.  Read the posts that provide solid, documented, information.  I’m afraid that a “sword on the back” will not provide you with an acceptable draw, nor will it be easily documentable (beyond simply carrying the weapon from point A to point B).

Historical accuracy usually breaks down along the lines of (from highest to lowest):

Living History groups – Highly documented kits.

SCA – Accuracy is all over the place from low to mid to living history level.

Renaissance Festival – Accuracy is all over the place with most in the low to mid accuracy levels, a few will be highly accurate.

LARP – Accuracy is generally low with a few exceptions.

These are very basic, generalized statements (notice - no citations  ;) ).  All this only matters if you want a historically accurate kit.  If not, then knock yourself out, have fun, and be happy!  That’s what truly matters.   :)



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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #42 on: 2014-08-19, 04:07:59 »
Not sure what era this is but I like it, however I would change the helm to the visored barbuta helm.

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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #43 on: 2014-08-19, 04:31:12 »
That kit is a 12th or early 13th century Knights Templar. That style helm came almost 200 years later. For the barbuta used under that visor looks like the Millanese one. Tell me what you think of these Mid 14th century kits. From what you have described to me so far in elements you want for your kit, these might be right up your alley.
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Re: Jericho the freelancer here
« Reply #44 on: 2014-08-19, 04:38:02 »
The first* picture definitely! That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. Use helm 6 from the second pic and the gauntlets from the third.
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