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Pictoral Armor Timeline
« on: 2014-06-28, 02:57:59 »
Saw this and thought it was a good pictoral reference for medieval armor timeline.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #1 on: 2014-06-28, 12:34:17 »
Nice find, that's pretty good.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #2 on: 2014-06-28, 13:09:29 »
Thanks for posting!
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #3 on: 2014-06-28, 13:15:43 »
Very nice! That great helm they're showing for 1250 didn't really start to appear until more like 1270 though. The 1250 entry should look more like the Mac bible. The image they have is great for around 1290-1300 though.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #4 on: 2014-06-28, 13:44:12 »
kinda cool

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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #5 on: 2014-06-29, 17:10:08 »
I spotted the Greatsword in the wrong place & the Maille for 1100 should have been longer at the legs IIRC.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #6 on: 2014-06-29, 17:20:50 »
yeah, we could pic it apart like crazy but its still kinda neat

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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #7 on: 2014-06-30, 14:02:34 »
The 1450 is Italian style specifically and the 1525 is Maximillian style, but definitely a nice find and a good little touch that they show some of the common exchange bits, like the two spear heads, the sallet and armet on the 1450, etc.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #8 on: 2014-08-17, 21:32:39 »
Love the 1525 armor style.

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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #9 on: 2014-08-18, 12:41:59 »
Love the 1525 armor style.

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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #10 on: 2014-08-18, 14:39:26 »
Love the 1525 armor style.

That's a style called "Maximillian", and is one of the more expensive styles to get. Only things I've seen more expensive are the very intricate highly polished gothic (with punchwork, brass and fluting) or repousse / gold inlaid top-tier armor.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #11 on: 2014-08-19, 14:28:45 »
I love all of them. Except Mr. 1610 over there. He represents too much of the end of knights and armor with his silly boom stick.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #12 on: 2014-08-19, 17:49:14 »
I like it! It might have some little bits that could have been done more accurately but it does give a good visual of roughly around when it says it is for current armor fashion then and yeah the exchanges between countries. Awesome post!

oh and lol Boom stick Boom boom

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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #13 on: 2014-08-19, 18:02:17 »
One thing I always like to point out on any armor timeline is that the knight of 1525 in the full Maximilian style harness is separated in time from the Norman era knight at the beginning of the timeline by roughly as much time as we are in turn separated from the knight of 1525.

The Normans on the field at Hastings in 1066 are just as archaic to a Tudor era knight as a Tudor era knight is to us.  I don't think enough people appreciate that.  They tend to lump the middle ages in to one small period.  That's why wearing a German Sallet of 1490 with a 1360's coat of plates is just as ridiculous as a Marine in Afghanistan going to battle with a matchlock rifle.  So it wasn't that one knight chose maille, over plate, or conical helm over a pig-faced bascinet.  These things were separated in time by sometimes hundreds of years.  It certainly brings perspective to the Middle Ages and 'kit building.'

Kinda like how we are closer in time to Tyrannosaurus Rex than T-Rex was to Stegosaurus :)  But we often think of the Age of Dinosaurs as one lumped period...

Us to T-Rex = 65-67 million years
T-Rex to Stegosaurus = 83 - 88 million years before the first T-Rex, or 150-155 million years from us.
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Re: Pictoral Armor Timeline
« Reply #14 on: 2014-08-19, 18:26:21 »
*pokes her T-rex steak while wearing 1050s mail with 1600s brestplate and current military helmet* What you talkin bout Willis?