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Let's Discuss Honor, Pt 2 (Real Tourney Example).
Thorsteinn:
Let's talk Honor.
In the SCA, if struck in the leg or arm with sufficient force you lose the use of said limb. It is customary in some places to match the opponent, thus if they are legged you go to your legs, lost arm, you lose an arm, etc. There is among KSCA no consensus on the matter whether doing or not doing this is a good idea. With some calling it fair play and others calling it a backhanded insult. So below is a good example.
I think the winner fought smart, well, and showed his opponent great respect an honor by not giving up his earned advantage.
Thoughts?
Trimaris Fall 2009 Crown Finals: Duke Thorsten vs Sir Krotuas.
(both are lefties too)
Thorsteinn:
And, as Sir Ian pointed out, I rarely give my own opinion on the thought provokers anymore so that I don't prejudice the discussion. However here I have, and it goes like this:
I'm trying to move away from giving up an earned advantage. I feel it shows all my opponents great respect by showing them I feel they are my equal, and given I'm a sneaky bastard on the field I'm betting they are too.
Don Jorge:
In my short time in the SCA I have never seen someone give up their advantage earned in combat. The one exception is a two sword fighter losing an arm and the opponent giving up their shield to fight one sword vs one sword...
I see no honor in giving up an earned advantage. You bested your opponent and surgically took away what he or she left open. Now you get to use that leg or arm being disabled to finish the fight.
Sir James A:
Agreed, you earned the advantage, retain it. Not doing so may smack of "I could fight you with one arm behind my back! Oh wait, you're doing that? I'll do it too and I can still win!"
Sir Edward:
Personally, I agree. Don't give up the advantage. Make the other person earn their hits, and those hits will be more meaningful.
That's something we've been doing in our demos too, is to not hold back. I remember a few years ago when Sir Nathan asked if we were going easy on him, and our answer was "no". I think that meant more to him that way (he can chime in and let us know for sure). :)
Same deal with our guest "sword & buckler" fighter at VARF. I made him work for hits (which in this case turned into double-kills, but whatever):
(the link should start at the right time index)
https://youtu.be/KKrD_k97DZE?t=13m13s
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