Main > The Armoury
Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
Sir Jason Simonds:
OK orders have been placed.
http://www.revivalclothing.com/agincourtarmingcotte.aspx
http://historicenterprises.com/mens-c-99/outfits-packages-mens-c-99_111/package-14th-century-underwear-complete-wool-p-1305.html
http://www.vikingleathercrafts.com/14th-century-laced-ankle-boot.html
Ian:
I would have held off on that arming cotte... it's about 75+ years in the future, and if you plan on wearing a maille haubergeon it provides no padding (I used to own one). If you don't plan on ever wearing maille under your plate it will do just fine (if historical accuracy is a concern, maille is always seen under plate in the 14th century, especially mid-14th century when it's still a primary protection), but will still be a slight anachronism. Maille worn over a non-padded garment is no fun. If that doesn't matter to you, then it will serve it's purpose fairly well. I believe both Sirs Nathan and James use the same garment.
**edit**
I noticed you ordered no outerwear for your upper body, was this intended, or are you intending to use the arming cotte as a doublet? Think of your kit building in 3 distinct sets of gear:
1. Soft Kit - Civilian Wear
2. Arming Garments - what will you wear under your armor, serves as a foundation and suspension point for 3.
3. Hard kit - everything that goes on the arming garments and is pretty and shiny
Each phase of the kit requires just as much attention to detail and research before making purchases, and should be purchased in that order because they all build on each other since pieces of soft kit stay on for arming garments, and all that is required to fit armor. I would argue that #2 is the most important as it will make or break #3 no matter how much money you spend on your armor.
**super double edit**
Look, here's the bottom line, I'm not trying to be the history police. When someone expresses that they want a historically accurate kit, I try to help as much as I can. What I found in developing my kit was as time went on I learned more and more what needed to be tweaked and outright discarded as historical accuracy became my focus (and it's still a long ways off). If someone else expresses interest in going that route, I don't want others to make the same and very $$costly$$ mistakes that I made along the way. I know some people don't take kindly to that kind of direction, so if it's unwanted, please let me know and I'll shut up. I just want to pimp you out in the best mid-14th century kit you're willing to get in to! :) I also need feedback from you on how deep down the rabbit hole you really want to go ;)
Lord Dane:
Sir Ian knows his period. :) I just realized my black/brass look makes me like like the medival standard of the modern magistrate. LOL
Ian:
--- Quote from: Lord Dane on 2014-05-04, 21:46:18 ---I just realized my black/brass look makes me like like the medival standard of the modern magistrate. LOL
--- End quote ---
But it looks sharp as all hell!
Sir James A:
Sorry, arming coat was my suggestion since I have one, it has worked well the last 3 years, will be totally hidden by the plate, and with the caveat that the kit isn't specifically for living history standards. My first suggestion was to make a Charles de Blois like Sir Ian did; arming coat was second. With multiple layers - undergarments, arming clothing, maille, and plate, less bulk seems to be better from my experience.
I've done a haubergeon under my plate before, and with a linen shirt, the double-layer arming coat, haubergeon, then full cuirass, it really isn't too bad. The flexibility at the elbow is the main thing for me; too much bulk, you can't bend or move right. Gambesons with the padded arms hinder too much; Chris and Brian (my brother) both had arm bending issues in gambesons with 14th century style armor; wasn't made for their size specifically, but bulk was the reason, you could see it bunching when they bent their arms.
I don't even like 9mm maille for that very reason, and I'm having heck with my voiders because of it. If I made a fully custom garment, I'd go with no padding on the arms except the wrist/cuff, back half of the elbow, a double-layer on the shoulders (shoulder fatigue reduction), and none in the torso except for a single layer on the hips. I'd consider it my "luxury" arming gear.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version