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Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
Sir Jason Simonds:
Looking at this helm as an option.
http://www.amazon.com/Szco-Supplies-Brass-Crusader-Helmet/dp/B007XP1ECS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398894256&sr=8-1&keywords=crusader+helm
Ian:
That helmet is very much out of date by the late 14th century.
The late 14th century helmets would include bascinets of different styles, (open faced, houndskull or klappvisor depending on wealth and geographic location), or chapel de fer (kettle hats).. but great helms aren't really a battlefield helmet in the late 14th.
Aiden of Oreland:
--- Quote from: Ian on 2014-05-01, 00:28:34 ---That helmet is very much out of date by the late 14th century.
The late 14th century helmets would include bascinets of different styles, (open faced, houndskull or klappvisor depending on wealth and geographic location), or chapel de fer (kettle hats).. but great helms aren't really a battlefield helmet in the late 14th.
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Except for the Pembridge that was used until 1450's, but even then, after that point it became less of a battlefield helmet and more of a tournament helm. Usually warn with a open face bascinet or secret helm. It looks something like this Jason: http://clang.adkinssoftware.com/hist%20helm/pembridge%2001.html
Ian:
The pembridge helm is very different helm than the one linked. Late 14th century Great Helms seems to have much more rounded features than their boxy predecessors. What may seem like small stylistic differences can mean the difference of 50 or 100 years or more. Even then, by this time as Aiden mentioned, the great helm was largely relegated to the tourney field. It would eventually morph in to the Frogmouth helms of the mid 15th century.
What I would suggest is if you like a particular helmet, or style of armor that you decide you want to base your kit around, then do just that. For example, if you love that style of helmet, than maybe a 13th century kit is what you're really after. Don't try to force armor in to an arbitrary time period if you're interested in historical accuracy. Just shift the time period to match the style of armor you're interested in.
Aiden of Oreland:
--- Quote from: Ian on 2014-05-01, 01:24:33 ---The pembridge helm is very different helm than the one linked. Late 14th century Great Helms seems to have much more rounded features than their boxy predecessors. What may seem like small stylistic differences can mean the difference of 50 or 100 years or more. Even then, by this time as Aiden mentioned, the great helm was largely relegated to the tourney field. It would eventually morph in to the Frogmouth helms of the mid 15th century.
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I know it is a different helmet and different style, but it was to follow the category of a great helm, not that particular style.
Let me ask you this Jason. Why do you want to do a 14th century? For the armor? Favorite period of study? Are you interested in authenticity? Also what country are you going for?
Is this what you are going for? It's rather broad and not specific, but just to try and help narrow it down.
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