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Timothy:
Hello,

Does anybody have the blazon for the Marshal arms? I have had a Marshal banner made for my family collection and the lion rampant seems a little to red.

Thanks

Timothy

Sir Douglas:

--- Quote from: Timothy on 2013-10-23, 22:44:43 ---Does anybody have the blazon for the Marshal arms?

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Like the written blazon or an image of it? There's one on the Order of the Marshal's roll of arms: http://orderofthemarshal.org/members/rollofarms/index/

Timothy:
Hello Douglas,

The written blazon. The Arms of the order does seem redder than other I have seen. Some look brownish red.

Thanks

Timothy

Sir Douglas:
"Per pale or and vert, a lion rampant gules."

Here's another image I found from the Historia Anglorum that portrays it more on the red side, and it's the same color as the red in the de Clare arms on the same page:
http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=mid&IllID=30892

And a better closeup of Marshal's arms: http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=mid&IllID=30926

I know there was technically a brownish-red color that appeared in some later heraldry, but I think the intended color on Marshal's arms was indeed red. :)

Sir Edward:
One thing to keep in mind is that the list of heraldic colors is fairly short, because in the medieval sense, various shades of a color would still be considered to be the main color it resembled. Red variants would not have different names, but rather would just be "red". The red can be vibrant, or more subdued, more brownish, or more burgundy, and in any case it's lumped in with "gules".

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