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Chivalry is Sexist, Your Opinion?
Thorsteinn:
Yes. Chivalry is very sexy.
Sir Brian:
--- Quote from: Thorsteinn on 2013-05-04, 00:03:43 ---Yes. Chivalry is very sexy.
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Except the after armor part...the missus insists I shower before going to bed. ;)
B. Patricius:
--- Quote from: Thorsteinn on 2013-05-04, 00:03:43 ---Yes. Chivalry is very sexy.
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LMAO literally ;D
--- Quote from: Sir Brian on 2013-05-03, 16:27:44 ---
--- Quote from: Sir Edward on 2013-05-03, 16:11:40 --- I'm tempted to write a new reply. The problem is, I'd want to write a long essay. :)
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Chill KC, I got this! ;)
I agree somewhat with the ‘best answer’ selected by the one who originally posed the question insofar as how the modern perception of chivalry has been devolved to nothing more than an archaic form of courtesy, however I found this below answer even more misguided and inherently askew from my concept of chivalry.
--- Quote ---As a feminist (LOL FEMINAZI LOLOLOL) and thus someone who believes in equal rights regardless of gender or sex, I am opposed to chivalry for a number of reasons.
1) It is sexist against men.
Chivalry promotes the idea that men have an obligation to women, and that they must take on certain things in a relationship just by virtue of being male.
2) It is sexist against women.
Chivalry encourages the stereotype that women are weak, and turns women into dependents. It also creates a system of obligation on the woman's behalf to repay the "kindness."
3) It encourages gender roles.
Gender roles restrict our social mobility and create homophobia.
People should treat one another with respect because the other person is a human being, not because s/he is female or male.
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Overall I hold mankind (the male gender) ultimately responsible for allowing this erosion of manliness and chivalric principles to decline by first of all not being men in allowing lesser males and overly assertive females to redefine men’s perception of manhood. – By overly assertive females I mean women who over compensate their reactions and perceptions subjectively based upon their lack of self esteem and discipline.
My perception of chivalry is far more simplified: It is a code of conduct I impose upon myself not for the praise of others but for my own self and how I have chosen to live. It also is neither out of weakness nor servility that I conduct myself towards women, children and other non-combatants in a gracious manner which has never been inspired by haughtiness but by poise and conscientiousness. The key to my distinction of whether I deem someone as a non-combatant is their demeanor. Certainly my life experiences have affirmed in my mind that most women and children do not convey themselves to be physically adversarial as some males are also apt to do in these modern times. Yet for us men we are ‘hardwired’ in various degrees to recognize and react to perceived antagonists.
The above quoted and self-described ‘feminist’ would obviously take exception with me and my sentiments and thus I would appropriately deem her and others like her to be an adversary and potentially subject to being treated just as any other impending foe. – With absolute austerity.
In essence men are beasts. If our natural inclinations were never tempered then humanity would have never progressed beyond the dark ages and it is my firm belief that chivalry is the forge in which humanity’s dross is purged away.
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QFT - how many times I hear "girls" talk about how men should go "metro" in the coffee shops. It really saddens me. Nothing is wrong with a sharp dressed man, but every "metro" guy I've seen really doesn't seem to have much of a backbone either, and it seems to be a requirement to fit in lately.
Yet it takes that backbone to believe in something and defend it, and that to me is the essence of chivalry. They stood up for and died for what they believed in. Now, people like that are labeled "extemists" which is just a politically correct way of saying "@$$-holes with a differing opinion" it seems.
Clint Eastwood, Viggo Mortenson, Ed Harris, John Wayne, Sam Elliot - those are men for boys to look up to, at least in their "image" sort of way, I have no idea about their political or personal lives, I don't care for any of that.
I do enjoy it was on "yahoo answers," sometimes I check those out just for a good laugh. Other times, it can be enjoyable. At least the people who replied have opinions and appear to stand by them. So many people now don't take accountability for their actions anymore, and it isn't even just online either. Pisses me off. Then when I do get upset and grill em a bit (seriously a 3 out of 10 in a military "chewing" scale) they freak out.
I think that is the problem. No backbone, no values, no ethics. Just "tolerance." Chivalry, like anything taken to its barest and most extreme could be construed as "bad" or in this case "sexist." But here at least, people say "mornin'" and open the doors and step aside for the ladies, that isn't sexist. It's being polite.
royalist89:
Stupid quote, not in agreement at all, 'sexist'!!!
Chivalry is a moral obligation from one human being to another, it doesn't debase people based on gender or any kind of sex, race or condition. Its all about doing whats right to help others, I can't see anything wrong with that.
I think to be so liberal in a sense that you have to challenge the foundations of anything, is sexist, its like making a big deal out of nothing... based on gender, race, sexual preference or condition!! even knowing many of those actual sub groups couldn't give a.....
We had the same discussion in Church, why is it that men have to be feminized and can't be men? why do we have to be mice rather than lions because things have changed in today's society? I just think things have gone too far the other way, would be nice if people just sought balance..
Sir James A:
--- Quote from: Sir Steven T. on 2013-05-03, 13:19:25 ---Chivalry is Sexist, Your Opinion?
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No, it is not.
--- Quote from: Sir Brian on 2013-05-04, 01:32:30 ---
--- Quote from: Thorsteinn on 2013-05-04, 00:03:43 ---Yes. Chivalry is very sexy.
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Except the after armor part...the missus insists I shower before going to bed. ;)
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:cough cough: Excalibur.... :D :cough cough:
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