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Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« on: 2011-04-12, 00:10:06 »
In have found over the years that Fighting At The Barrier to be quite fun. There are so many variations that one could easily do a full day of a Tourney on just the Barrier.

And... It's Period.

Has anyone, besides myself, fought at the barrier or at a Pas d'Armes?

Would you be interested in adding this to your training, sparring, or tourney regime?

For more info see here: http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=132484&p=1958777#p1958777

SCA Pas d'Armes, fighting at the Barrier:
http://windrosearmoury.com/gallery/index.php?album=%2FSCA_Combat_Photos%2F&image=DSC02149.JPG

Period Picture of tourney Barrier Fight during Siege:


(Note: I tried to find a pic of a LH group doing it but my google skills failed me.

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« Last Edit: 2013-02-03, 20:49:57 by Thorsteinn »
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #1 on: 2011-04-12, 00:29:31 »
doesn't Sir Christian Tobler do barrier?

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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #2 on: 2011-04-12, 05:00:00 »
Once, many years ago at a tournament.  I didn't fare well.  :(

A specific skill set is needed.  You can not circle and half (or more) of your shots are eliminated or restricted by the barrier.  On the other hand, the need for speed and accuracy are greatly increased as well as the ability to flow smoothly from block to strike in one fluid motion.  It really takes a great deal of skill, I may have to try it again soon! 
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #3 on: 2011-04-12, 14:44:06 »
Looks like fun!
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #4 on: 2011-04-12, 15:57:57 »
I haven't, but it looks fun. It's interesting to see some of the period suits. People would walk around in full plate from the waist/thighs up to their helmet - and in nothing else but hose/pants and shoes. It looks like a storybook for kids called "the knight who forgot his pants" - I don't think it exists, but if it did, that's exactly what I picture.
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #5 on: 2011-06-16, 00:27:27 »
Yep, that looks like good, pure Medieval Fun!
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #6 on: 2011-07-15, 19:39:09 »
Loads of fun this, the worst part is trying to dig a small moat the night before, after a skin full of strong French larger, to try and outwit your opposition lol

http://picasaweb.google.com/eustache.dencre/Marle2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ_KrLHe0NnMzgE&feat=directlink#5353250826549040802

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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #7 on: 2011-07-16, 03:39:44 »
Sir Gerald, are ALL of your weekends straight out of my wildest medieval dreams? :D
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #8 on: 2011-07-16, 03:41:03 »
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #9 on: 2011-07-16, 11:27:41 »
Sir Gerald, are ALL of your weekends straight out of my wildest medieval dreams? :D

Ditto!  :)
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #10 on: 2011-07-16, 13:58:25 »
Sir Gerald, are ALL of your weekends straight out of my wildest medieval dreams? :D

Ditto!  :)

LMAO. Don`t worry guys, I don`t believe my good fortune and find I have to pinch myself, most of the time, to make sure I`m truly there  ;)

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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #11 on: 2013-02-03, 14:32:00 »
Loads of fun this, the worst part is trying to dig a small moat the night before, after a skin full of strong French larger, to try and outwit your opposition lol

http://picasaweb.google.com/eustache.dencre/Marle2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ_KrLHe0NnMzgE&feat=directlink#5353250826549040802

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Looks like a scene from the Battle of Orleans in the movie "Joan of Arc", Lord Gerard :)
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #12 on: 2013-02-12, 16:02:45 »
Sir Gerald, are ALL of your weekends straight out of my wildest medieval dreams? :D

Ditto!  :)

Glad it isn't just me who is envious!  Lord Gerard's living the dream, fellows.  :)
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #13 on: 2013-02-16, 01:10:23 »
Loads of fun this, the worst part is trying to dig a small moat the night before, after a skin full of strong French larger, to try and outwit your opposition lol

http://picasaweb.google.com/eustache.dencre/Marle2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ_KrLHe0NnMzgE&feat=directlink#5353250826549040802

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Looks like a scene from the Battle of Orleans in the movie "Joan of Arc", Lord Gerard :)

 Except for the soaking wet green oasis foam we used as missiles against the attacking forces lol.
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Re: Anyone trained using Fighting At The Barrier?
« Reply #14 on: 2013-02-16, 01:17:16 »
Looking through those photo`s, it`s so strange the strength and confidence you get from a physical barrier/barbican. As you watch the sequence of photo`s, You will notice that as soon as the barrier is eventually pulled down we all withdraw to the safety of the gate house.  ;)
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